Len Over 21 wrote:
In article ,
(N2EY) writes:
(James F. Aguiar) wrote in message
.com...
I think the ARRL is doing a super job of taking care of its own cash
cow.
Do you think all of the work done at ARRL Hq could be done by unpaid
volunteers?
According to the ARRL's tax return of 2002 their income was $12
million. That money was going where? :-)
The League has quite a large paid staff. In addition to salaries, there
are the expenses of printing and mailing, the need to maintain the HQ
building and W1AW, the costs for utilities, insurance and all sorts of
other necessities. Where does your money go?
Ham Radio as we know it is changing in the interest of progress
with no considration for the hobby.
I have no idea what that is supposed to mean.
Tsk, tsk, tsk, inflexibility to understand the reality of now.
If you don't agree with it, you "don't understand it." :-)
If it isn't written so that anyone can understand it, how can anyone
agree or disagree with it?
I bet if everyone who subscribes
to QST was to cancel their subscriptions,in other words, BOY COTT the
ARRL, their trend of thought would take a sudden change of direction.
Of course it would.
No, it would not. QST sells enough ad space to keep itself going.
It would be difficult to sell ads if there aren't many readers. I'd
change "No, it would not" to "Yes, it certainly would".
However, if the ARRL loses its demographic base to show
advertisers, they will not bother buy more ad space.
No kidding? Once again, you've managed to sum up the perfectly obvious.
But why should the members do that? What issue
would make all of the members decide to drop out?
Perish the thought. BELIEVERS would still belong...just like the
followers of Osama hang onto his very word today...
What's his call?
Who cares about manufactures who pay for glossy pages of advertisment
in QST.
I care about one or two of them.
Do you care enough to buy the very best? :-)
Or are you still designing your own kits?
After all didn't we all used to make our own radios once.
Some of us still do.
"Design them" too! :-)
Unjustifiable snipe noted. I really like the use of quotes too. Reminds
me of your "experience" in amateur radio.
It seems as though the reciepe is to dismantle the hobby of amateur
radio and ARRL is trying to hang on to what ever will keep them going
as money making tax free organization.
What, exactly, is ARRL doing that you disagree with? Please be
specific.
TAFKA Rev. Jim's response to Aguiar's reply ought to be something!
Ask your self, what has the ARRL ever done for you personally or for
anyone you know, I bet the answer is zero, nada.
You lose!
Here are some things ARRL has done for me:
- Excellent publications that helped me learn radio theory and practice
Drexel didn't teach you anyting? :-)
- W1AW code practice helped me improve code skills
W1AW isn't heard in all the states in the union.
You'd be wrong, Mr. "If I need facts, I just make them up".
- PRB-1
To help fight the evil, money-grubbing, dictatorial home neighborhood
organizations?
That isn't what PRB-1 does. It is quite useful in seeing that towns and
cities don't establish regulations which arbitrarily restrict the
installation of antennas and supports.
- Fight against BPL
A few OTHER companies and organizations and LOTS of individuals
have voiced their objection to BPL here, PLC overseas. There's over
5000 Comments on NOI 03-104 on the FCC ECFS not from ARRL.
That's a good thing, but you can't have helped noticing that the ARRL
took the lead in matters relating to the threat to HF radio from BPL.
- Best ham magazine ever printed (QST)
Hardly. RSGB's "Radio Communication" is an English language
monthly with a wider scope of amateur radio interests.
RadComm has a wider scope of amateur radio interests? I don't think so.
It also has far less content than QST because it serves a much smaller
membership.
QST NEVER compared to HAM RADIO magazine during HR's 22
years of independent monthly publication.
It certainly didn't. Ham Radio catered to one thin slice of hamdom.
QST is a general interest magazine, broader in scope than HR or Radcomm.
QST is still printed. HR is defunct.
HR was far better, did
not cater to any BoD stuffiness.
That's pretty easy. No BoD stuffiness. Why? We ain't got no stinkin'
BoD. If you have no membership and if you have a staff of a few people
why would you need a board of directors?
- Representation in Washington and internationally, as well as
information.
Special Interest Groups abound in DC. All it takes is money to pay
them for their services representing the BoD's opinion.
Precisely! The trick is in selecting folks who know something about
amateur radio and the ARRL to represent the League. The ARRL has those
people and they do lobby on behalf of the ARRL.
With the Internet, ALL citizens can now communicate with our
federal government at the speed of enlightenment. We don't have to
be filtered through any organization or SIG having its own agenda.
ALL citizens have had access to paper, envelopes and stamps for
generations. Citizens have had telephones for decades. Are you so much
of a rube that you don't see that lobbyists abound because they are able
to accomplish things? If that wasn't true, there wouldn't be any
lobbyists.
I am glad that I have at least had the past 47 or so years of amateur
radio.
Without the ARRL, do you think we'd still have amateur radio? I don't.
You owe EVERYTHING to your ARRL. Start paying up...
I paid up in 1978. You can pony up too, Leonard and become an Associate
Member.
I've been a ham for 36+ years, too.
Sure. Just like the standards and practices of the 1930s. You are
49 going on 94.
That doesn't make much sense. The standards and practices of the 1930s
have been a ham for 36+ years? The standards and practices of the 1930s
are 49 going on 94?
That is how I feel and I just want to voice my personal opinion even
though I am going to get bashed for it.
No bashing, just some questions. You may *feel* the ARRL does nothing
for you, but the reality is quite different.
ARRL never gave me anything except six issues of QEX that Ed Hare
kindly sent me at league expense...from a stack of unsold issues at Hq.
[the last time I ever received anything from Newington without paying
shipping charges...:-) ]
....and I can see that you are dripping with gratitude.
ARRL has wasted my time, the late Vic Clark included.
How can the ARRL waste your time when 1) you aren't doing anything but
posting newsgroup messages 2) aren't a radio amateur and 3) aren't an
ARRL member. Maybe you spend much of your spare time (and it is
apparent that you have oodles of it) making aluminum foil hats to
protect you from those signals which W1AW is beaming your way.
Dave K8MN