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February 23rd 04, 12:49 PM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...

After having committed the words "I am only here to civilly
debate the Morse Code test issue", Leonard H. Anderson, a known
pathological liar and newsgroup antagonist, further demonstrated his
illness by commiting THESE words to the newsgroup:

In article , Dave Heil
determined to be as snarly as possible scribbles in crayon:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil

writes:

You are an amateur extra, a shining role model for the amateur
community.

And you are not. You're not a Novice. Your'e not a Tech. You're not a
General. You're not an Advanced. You aren't a participant.

I am an electronics engineer, working for pecuniary interest, but no
longer at regular hours. I am also a hobbyist without pecuniary
compensation.

Right. There you go back into your professional background.

I've been working on that professional background for 51 years. :-)

That isn't amateur radio.

That isn't HAM radio, sweetums. "Amateur" is defined as "without
pecuniary interest." Even the FCC defines amateur radio that way.

AND...Your Scumminess...THEY ("They" being the very same FCC YOU
cited) don't call it "Ham" radio...THEY call it AMATUER Radio.

YOU, after all, are the one whio points out that THEY, not "we"
nor the ARRL, are the one's who "make the rules"...

Ergo YOU, licensed or not, are bound by THIER regulations by
virtue of being a US citizen.

Sorry, Your Putziness...Dems da facts.

Lots of us are hobbyists in any number of fields.

You are out standing in your field now.

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test
issue"...From yet another LennieLie perpetrated in this forum by
Leonard H. Anderson.

You're some kind of hobbyist. You aren't a radio amateur.

Poor baby. Still so confused, scrunching up his fat little fingers,
bound and determined to Have His Way!

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test
issue"...From yet another LennieLie perpetrated in this forum by
Leonard H. Anderson.

Hobbyists in radio are defineable as amateurs in radio if they do not
make any income from it.

Yet the FCC defines RADIO AMATEURS as being licensed in the
Amateur Radio Service.

Scumbag spinmasters such as yourself can spin it any way you
want...You're STILL not a Radio Amateur BY THE FCC'S DEFINITION.

Poor baby, doesn't understand that amateur radio licenses are NO
GOOD outside of allocated amateur bands. That's true. Anyone can
verify that with Title 47 Code of Federal Regulations, especially in
Parts 1 and 2..

Not germane to the FACT that YOU do not have ANY OPERATOR or
STATION license combintation that will allow you to operate a radio
station in the AMATUER RADIO SERVICE...Nor in any other service, save
for Part 15 and Part 95.

Did you know that the federal government can operate all kinds of RF
emitters without having ANY operators licensed? True. A ham license
there isn't worth the price of a ham sandwich. No criminal liability!

Not germane to the FACT that YOU do not have ANY OPERATOR or
STATION license combintation that will allow you to operate a radio
station in the AMATUER RADIO SERVICE...Nor in any other service, save
for Part 15 and Part 95.

Don't you just HATE it when your rant gets destroyed?

I am sure he would if he were ranting or if anything he'd said
were untrue.

YOU are free to believe otherwise, but YOU are the one ranting,
and YOU are the one who DOES NOT MEET THE CRITERIA as a LICENSED
OPERATOR in ANY radio service, Lennie.

Your GROL allows you NO priviledges WITHOUT a station license.

Your GROL ONLY allows you to "operate" under the auspices of
someone else's station license, and ONLY to the DISCREET channel(s)
and THE mode specified by THAT licnese.

I've been involved with radio and electronics, both with and without
pecuniary interest since 1947.

Bully for you. You haven't been involved in amateur radio at all.

I haven't been involved in LICENSED amateur radio.

As of today you've NOT been involved in AMATEUR RADIO. You are
not a licensee. You've had some articles published in an long-defunct
magazine, but you have yet to prove to anyone that your "work" was
original

Too bad I can't bring up Jim Fisk as a reference (he is SK). I don't
know about Alf Wilson, W6NIF, or Rich Rosen. They were rather
involved with HAM RADIO.

Judging by thier callsigns, they are licensed AMATEUR RADIO
OPERATORS, as defined by the FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION...

You DO remember them, don't you, Sir Scumbag? THEY are the
UNLICENSED politicians that YOU constantly remind us that are IN
CHARGE...

THEY are the one's who define what AMATEUR RADIO is...NOT an
unlicensed, ex-radio technician retiree in Southern Kalifornia.

I guess you really showed us, huh?

That's not difficult.

So far for YOU, it is...You've not showed us anything but
your...well...your butt...

Guess you need to get those "Depends" taped up a bit higher,
Lennie.

I returned your snipped line to its rightful place. We wouldn't want
you to mislead others now, would we?

Anyone can read these public postings without your selective
editing.

A Pearl of Wisdom from the master of the "selectiv(ly) edit(ed)"
rant.

You don't seem to comprehend half of it, but that's quite another
problem and all yours.

Comprehend THIS, Scumbag:

Not germane to the FACT that YOU do not have ANY OPERATOR or
STATION license combintation that will allow you to operate a radio
station in the AMATUER RADIO SERVICE...Nor in any other service, save
for Part 15 and Part 95.

Right. U.S. amateur radio is a SECRET, classified service which NO
outsider can possibly know about, therefore no one can comment
unless they have an amateur license.

You can read up on it in "Now You're Talking".

Morsemanship isn't "talking." It's beeping.

It's communicating. Skillful communicating at that.

It's a skill that we Might Morsemen have that the Unwashed do
not.

Wrong. You've been corrected on this same mis-statement of yours on a
number of occasions. It is "interest in AMATEUR radio", Leonard.

Noooo, noooo. You are desperately trying to hang on but are
inexorably drawn over the edge. It's a very long drop below you...

LICENSED amateur radio is what you are trying (vainly) to say and then
only to be legal with the federal government on transmitting RF energy
WITHIN allocated amateur radio bands. As the FCC explains, an
amateur radio license is NOT required for transmitting RF energy outside
of amateur radio bands. That sort of thing is quite illegal.

Only YOU are trying to discuss "outside of amateur radio bands",
Lennie, and that's only because it's the only thing that can even
REMOTELY tie you to any form of radio communication.

That's only for CIVILIAN radio services and the FCC has NO jurisdiction
over government users of radio.

Hmmmmm.....Since we're CIVILIANS, it seems PERFECTLY appropritate
that THOSE are the "rules" that we discuss.

But, did you know that UNLICENSED civilians can use certain allocated
radio bands and transmit RF energy without taking a single test? True!
Been several of those since 1958! Ask the FCC about non-amateur
radio services if you are too "involved" in amateur radio activity to go
look it up.

With the exception of Part 15 and Part 95, any citizen operating
an UNLICENSED radio transmitter is at risk for criminal prosecution.

Neither your decades-long "interest" nor your "Extra right out of the
box" boast of several years ago have resulted in your having taken a
single step toward obtaining even the most basic level of amateur radio
license.

Poor baby. Still angry over the past?

You STILL can't understand why I am here. I've explained it enough
times, but your have this set-in-concrete mind that can't get flexible
enough to understand. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue"...

Yes, Lennie...we know why you are "here"...We've added THAT lie
in with the REST of the ones you've promulgated in this forum.

If you are still munching cashews from your glorious middle Africa
"Foreign Service" days, I'd throw them out...either than or too much
beeping has affected your mind. [Guinea-Bisseau is the African
center for cashew exporting...about their best export...]

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test issue"...

As I said...

A number of them did merit explanation after you attempted to twist them
into something else. It is "interested in AMATEUR radio". Why do you
persist in deleting that very important word?

Sigh..."amateur" refers to an activity without pecuniary interest. The
FCC uses those same words. [the FCC granted your amateur radio
license]

BIGGER SIGH....The very same FCC Commissioners that YOU
constantly refer to are the ones who have made the definition,
Scumbag.

In the context of FCC rules and regulations, "Amateur" is a
person LICENSED in the AMATUER RADIO SERVICE...

A status YOU do not presently hold...Thank God.

In fact, in some U.S. civilian radio services it is perfectly legal to
transmit RF energy WITHOUT a license of any kind!!! Sunovagun!

Ohhhhhhhhh, baby!

Part 15 and Part 95....

I am soooooooooooo impressed! About enough "RF energy" to be
heard across town if the conditions are right with the technical
limitations imposed by PArt 15, and door-to-door trash that makes it
almost impossible to be heard across town even if the conditions ARE
right on Part 95.

Poor baby. Another Heilian rant shot down in flames.

Not hardly.

Since you try to change the FCC'S definition of what Amateurs
are, and since YOU are NOT an FCC Commissioner and not entitled to
that priviledge, I'd say the "rant" was yours and the one going down
in flames is you...Again...

You've misdefined your interest.

Not me. YOU. All wrong, Golem...er, I mean Frodo.

"I am only here to civilly debate the Morse Code test
issue"...Leonard H. Anderson

I HAVE defined my "interest" quite correctly.

Not by FCC definitions, Lennie...Only by your own. In the eyes
of the FCC, you are just a private citizen.., a "hobbyist",
perhaps...An "amateur" in many different ways, but in THIER
deifintion, you are NOT an "Amateur".

That you totally refuse to believe it is not my problem. Yours.

The YOU "totally refuse" to accept that your attempts to rewrite
federal definitions to YOUR satisfaction is laughable....That you do
it in public and in such a way as to totally humiliate yourself and
family name is incredulous.

Your intellectual presbyopia is glaringly obvious.

YOUR lack of ANY intellectual contributions to Amateur Radio are
even more glaring.

You have interest in internet newsgroup posting.

No more so than regular physical exercise.

I still offer to take you around the block a few times, Your
Putziness...To make it more interesting, I'll carry my field pack with
me (around 40 pounds).

I have lots of interest in my bank. I have monetary interest elsewhere.

You have interest in outlining your past professional glories.

Tsk, tsk, tsk, very subjective use of adjectives on your part.

WHOOHOO! Such an allegation coming from the master of the
Newsgroup Obfuscation!

I've spent 51 years in professional radio-electronics activity and none
of it can qualify as "glorious."

No doubt...how "glorius" can it be to follow in someone elses
footsteps step-by-step...?!?!

Intellectually INTERESTING, yes, and
some of it quite enjoyable. If some of it was more involved than what
you did, TS, that's the breaks of life.

How "involved" can a copycat be, Lennie...?!?!

Maybe your distemper is flaring up again because I got assigned to
a very large HF transmitting facility while in the U.S. Army...and got
rank and responsibility operating many high-powered HF transmitters.
51 years ago. Before your first hamme raddio license. TS for you.

Again with the relapsing to profanity (or at least the
insinuation of profanity) in order to "make a point"...

Your "assignment" as a radio clerk in 1950's Japan is about as
"glorious" as your life ever got, I am sure, hence your blatherings
and antagonism in THIS forum...

Poor Lennie...Still unable to bring himself off his marble
pillar long enough to join mere mortals and take an Amateur Radio exam
and join in with the rest of us...enjoying Amatuer Radio and all that
it entails...

You aren't involved in amateur radio.

Not involved in TRANSMITTING RF ENERGY ON ALLOCATED HAM
BANDS, true.

Thee are no "HAM BANDS" in the United States, Lennie...However
the Federal Communications Commission DOES specify the allocation
of numerous bands from the MF spectrum through microwaves to the
AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE.

47CFR refers, if you need help...

TRANSMIT, Baggins, TRANSMIT. Like in legal RF energy within
those tight, confining HF band bounds.

Ignorance, Lennie....97% of all Amateur Radio allocations are
ABOVE 30Mhz...Spectrum YOU could be using by the end of the week if
wanted to...

I'm just advocating the elimination of morse code testing for any radio
license but you desperately want to make that some kind of grande
production of drama and pathos, a giant mountain built out of a mole
hill of your old morse message blanks. Tsk, tsk, tsk, you try such
theatrics! Do you have an interest in the theater?

Lennie, you've only further proven that YOU are so far out of
touch with YOURSELF and what you do in this forum, that you warrant
confinement as a 5150 mental health hold under California revised code
for evaluation of mental health disorders.

I'll just put you down in the same emotional category as other
emotionally-seven-year-old Extras.

Those are very "involved" as long as their attention spans last.

Obviously the chronologically aged seven year old had enough
attention span to pass the exam...Which seems to have eluded you....at
HOW old...?!?!

Rant, rant, rant, Lennie...we have YOUR number.

It's ZERO.

Steve, K4YZ