In article , JJ
writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:

Let's journey back in time to 17 January 1994 and the Northridge
Earthquake. ALL the primary electrical power to about 10 million
was shut off by a single falling MHV tower at a little after 0430..

Rest of lenny's senile drivel deleted:

Poor baby...don't like actual facts, ey? :-)

So based on this one incident you declare that hams have no use in
emergency communications.

No, but it is one of MANY in which radio amateurs have NOT
helped in the glorious, noble, and heroic services claimed by the
mythmakers and amateur propagandists.

The Northridge Earthquake was a mere 10 years and 2 months ago.
It affected about 10 million people from the TOTAL absence of
primary electrical power.

Lenny, you are dumber than a bag of hammers.

Poor baby, using a mixed alliteration. That would prove you are
an illiterate alliterator. :-)

Journey back to the quake of 1985, when there was no, none, nada, phone
service into or out of SF for a period of time, and only sparodic
service locally and see what service the hams were providing not only
for local emergency agencies but also handling traffic into and out of
the area via HF.

Of course they were...in your mind.

The Loma Prieta quake was 19 years ago. More severe in Richter
Scale numbers than Northridge, like the Northridge quake it affected
only certain portions of the Bay Area. It was NOT a total collapse
of the infrastructure by any means. While parts of the Bay Area were
without electrical power, the Area was still connected to the Pacific
Intertie.

Unlike Loma Prieta, the entire Los Angeles area was cut off from the
Intertie at a bit past 0430 hours. The Greater Los Angeles area
went BLACK. No lights, nothing, nada, nyet, nicht except were the
emergency generators could supply local lighting. The Loma Prieta
quake started during daylight.

If the infrastructure was so "immobilized" by Loma Prieta, then
explain all the television coverage from the ground as well as the air.
Saw quite a bit of damage in rather widely-scattered areas down
here. Not only that, I called to the area using POTS and got through
normally a few hours after it started.

While you desperately desire to keep the Myth of telephone service
collapsing entirely alive, that isn't true either. While IN an affected
area, the limitations of switching centers don't allow free calling all
around. However, one can call in from OUTSIDE the area. Obviously
the infrastructure was NOT helpless or "down."

During the Northridge quake, I got a call from a relative in Florida
during the afternoon, once again proving one can call in from the
outside even if the switching centers are swamped to calls WITHIN
an affected area.

Throughout both earthquakes the public safety and utility and
construction-wrecking companies were in constant communications
with each other and the various local governments. Their only
overload was dealing with the WORK of rescue and clean-up. They
had no real problem of communications.

Now go take your meds and and hassle the little old ladies in your rest
home.

I take my 0.5% Timulol Maleate regularly in the morning and after
supper. As prescribed.

I don't live in "the med" nor in any "rest home."

You dwell in anonymity, without the courage to identify yourself.

Are you hiding that alleged callsign because you have NO
amateur radio license? Certainly appears that way to everyone.

You are an UNKNOWN as well as cowardly troll, too ignorant of the
world and fearful of that world finding out your true incompetence.
But, your imagination must think you are a Great Hero, a Noble
Communicator Serving Your Nation for having a radio hobby. :-)

Now, go back to dreaming of your glory of selfless dedication to
your community. You don't have it but you can't admit it...

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