RadioBanter - View Single Post - Ham-radio is a hobby not a service

March 10th 04, 05:12 PM

(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
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(William) writes:

(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message
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Alun wrote in message
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In one way he does have a point. What I am alluding to is that prcisely
because it is a hobby we all have thousands of bucks worth of radios lying

around, and we can use them without wires and cell phone towers.

The "point" Lennie it trying to make us believe, Alun, is that
Amateur Radio is ONLY for any reason OTHER than recreation...That's not
true.

Really? I don't see that at all.

Brian, the psychotic don't see things the same way that rational
humans such as you, Alun, and I do.

You shouldn't be so quick to bring Alun down to your level,
Lennie.

Opposing opinions aside, he's polite, respectful, and thoughtful
in his words...All things that you are anything but...

The gunnery nurse is stuck, wedged in his emotional rut of anger
and rage over long-ago perceived personal insults to his opinions
and statements. As the result all he can do is shout and holler and
egregiously denigrate his critics over the slightest hint of disapproval.

Nope.

I don't tolerate liars and bullies. You are both.

In his mental world amateur radio has substituted for "the corps"
and he must traverse all routes between the halls of Montezuma
and the shores of Tripoli, marching to the beat of olde-tyme
tradition and demanding strict and utter obeyance of the "gunny"
in a hobby activity. That is an absolute and cannot be otherwise.

Hardly an "absolute", Lennie...But it seems to make you feel
better about yourself to think that it's so...So have a it!

That is also quite a bit sick. But, other amateurs allow his
presence, even with implications of "praise" for his exhortations
and pejorations. That implies some impurity of those others.

"Praise"...?!?! Hardly. I know they'd rather I just not respond
to your lying, decietful rhetoric on the outside chance that you'd
tire and go away.

I prefer to keep rubbing your nose in your obvious errors and
mistruths, thereby blunting the negativism you try to engender about
Amateur Radio.

His ulterior motive is to discredit Amateur Radio's countless
contributions, not only to the "history" of radio, but to the
"service" of the Nation as a resource to be called upon in any number
of disasters or emergencies.

I'd suggest that you not rest on your laurels. Historically amateur
radio has provided an invaluable service to the nation. More
recently, more people have turned to cellular telephones to aid them
in an emergency. You do the math.

The gunnery nurse is still stuck in his obsessive rut and cannot
tolerate a reality at odds with his mental fantasy.

No less than YOU are stuck in YOUR rut to discredit any
contribution Amateur Radio makes.

That 100 million cellular telephone subscriptions exist in the
USA as of U.S. Census Bureau data for 2003 is irrelevant to the
gunnery nurse's fantasy world. He refuses to acknowledge that
and focusses solely on himself and his relation to his activities
as the only possible "truth." Anything contrary will bring forth a
spate of the usual personal insults, spat with exaggerated anger
and resentment.

The census of the United States as it pertains to cellphone
subscribers has nothing to do with the FACT that Amateur Radio
continues to be a vibrant, progressive and contributing resource to
this nation's ability to respond to emergencies of MANY kinds.

That is a fact.

The history of all radio has already been and has been
documented in many other places besides Newington, CT.
The contributions of amateur radio are quite countable, not so
numerous as to be labeled "uncountable." The countable
contributions - in the majority - all happened well before the
gunnery nurse's life experience began.

OK, Lennie...

Since YOU seem to think the contributions of Amateur Radio are a
finite, "countable" figure, let's see YOU do it...!

He's unable to do that, either, but he obviously believes that if
he keeps repeating it often enough perhaps he and he alone can
re-write 90 years of history.

Recounting documented reality is not a "rewrite" of anything.

YOUR "recounting" is contrary to numerous archived tellings,
Lennie.

That is directly due to your desire to see any reference to
Amateur Radio considered as insignificant or irrelevent for your own
satisfaction.

ALL radio is only 108 years old. The ARRL was organized in 1914
as a local New England radio club primarily interested in "relaying"
telegraphic messages privately instead of using commercial
telegram services. As a late-comer in U.S. national radio clubs
(the Radio Club of America was organized 5 years before the ARRL
and still exists today) it began to have dreams of greatness. But,
the ARRL membership is still less than a quarter of all licensed U.S.
radio amateurs. Their "greatness" seems to be a self-definition.

The use of "90" years is indicative of the mental tunnel vision and
absolute Belief in the ARRL as the source, the oracle of All in
radio. When the ARRL was first organized, "radio" was already 18
years old, having been demonstrated as a communications means
in both Italy and Russia in 1896.

I said nothing of the ARRL in my reference to the "ballpark"
figure of 90 years of Amateur Radio.

More than one historical reference on the matter makes that
number about the same.

I am sure YOU have so "exact" date when Amateur Radio as an
entity came to be...?!?!

And thank you for demonstrating your OWN rut of ARRL-bashing.

Get over the glory of our history. Mike Powell asks, "What has
amateur radio done for me lately?"

That is really for another thread, Brian, even though both of us do
not look with favor upon Chairman Powell.

The gunnery nurse MUST wrap himself in the patriotic bunting and
mythical glory of his corps-substitute. That is evidenciary in all the
psychotic behavior shown in here over the past years. To him it
seems not a hobby but a lifestyle, a "service" lacking only a common
uniform. All must follow his personal patriotism or be villified forever
and ever.

He wastes our time.

Hardly.

I simply use MY time to provide a balance to the lies,
misrepresentations and Amateur Radio bashing that you seem
leather-bent on lavishing upon this forum

YOUR time is wasted by not researching your facts, posting
material and opinions that are easily refuted with even the most
circumspect of effort, and your insistance on the liberal use of
obviously inciteful, hurtful and demeaning epithets and profanities.

So...if your time is being wasted, it's you doing the
wasting...not me.

Steve, K4YZ