In article , "Arnie Macy"
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"Len Over 21" wrote ...
"Len Over 21" wrote ...
Sheesh, Leonard. We don't use much in the way of milspec electronics
anymore. The new theory adopted by the armed services in 1994 relies
heavily on commercially available gear.
Are you sleeping on your COTS?
The day of everything having to be milspec is long gone.
Bravo Sierra. Those are still here. So are Military
Specifications,
abbreviated "Mil Spec" among those of us who still have to use
them.
The Bravo Sierra is yours, Leonard. Since you don't actually work with
the
military anymore, you are forced to search things out on the net and hope
they are up to date.
Actually, I'm working for a company that is contracting to another
company who has a contract to supply electronics for the DoD.
Not full time. But the MIL STDs of many kinds are in both places
with many different dash number "Mil Specs" called out.
Then you should know that if the product (or service) cannot be obtained
commercially, even the components should be commercial or adapted for
military use.
So, if a product isn't available commercially, the commercial
product must be used anyway? :-)
Makes for very lightweight products. Those would have lots of
things not there. :-)
As you know, many "commercial" products already meet or
exceed what we would commonly refer to as Milspec.
They do? Gosh. All this time thousands of design engineers
have been "wrong" according to His Majesty with the bionic VTC!
Thanks for the heads-up.
The FAR is the Federal Aquisition Regulation (15 and 42) and the DFAR is the
defense version. If you are a contractor and or sub-contractor on a
government contract, you are required to be familiar with it.
I am? We are? I suppose. That's what the "bean-counters" are
for, Arnie. Not my area. I'm intimately into the product itself
and its very specific specifications. We are very familiar with
those specific specifications.
The managerial levels and the accountants can handle the
administrative details. Us design folk aren't required to be legal
beagles sniffing out things in the financial-contract half of an
award, just the engineering-contract part of it. [those specific
specifications mentioned]
Seriously,
you might want to tell your employer to supply you a copy since you and I
both are bound by what it says.
My contractor, not my "employer." There's a difference, but the
difference is a petty detail that you Pentagon lords of the Rings
don't bother with. :-)
I'm not worried about the contract administration tasks. So far,
to the best of my observation, no contract regulation has ever
been able to communicate by radio, search for a submarine, or
test out another electronic unit. Maybe you know of some
contract document that has?
I'm sure that you need only imply you always tell the truth
in here and that is the Final Word. :-)
Do you know what COTS is? Ask around. Don't sleep on the job.
COTS = Commercial Off The Shelf.
I'm quite familiar with the term COTS. I didn't respond because it was a
moronic question to ask someone who works in the system.
Riiiight. And all the contract administrators can "work on the board,"
do the designs, get their hands dirty in the labs, monitor the
environmental testing, troubleshoot failures, and, in general, make
the PRODUCT work. Suuuuure.
Just who do you think specifies whether or not a commercial, off
the shelf component will WORK in a PRODUCT? Here's a clue,
bionic one, it's NOT the contract administration side of a contract.
"Millions" in contract awards have been awarded since WW2. The
dollar amounts, normalized for the COLA, serve only to indicate the
size of a particular project. That's a manager and bean-counter
thing; us folks with the dirtier hands concentrate on the works of a
project in order to fulfill a contract.
And as the COR, I make sure that you do.
Not HERE, sweetie. Your name on the corporate visitor's list at
the lobby ain't there nor did security ever give you a pass for
visitor access.
The COR (Contract Officer Representative or COTR (technical added)) IS the
person in the weeds, Leonard. We surveille, inspect, rate, and coordinate
with the contractor concerning every aspect of the contract for the CO. The
6 million dollar contract (for which I am still the COR) extends over a
period of 2 years. We are only 3 months into it at this point, and have
just completed our first quarterly performance rating for them. They did
quite well.
Okay, I'll have my dentist erect a plaque with your name on it.
It would be fun to have you visit the main plant and watch you
"surveille" the work on the prototypes. I'll bet all your morse code
and amateur experience would make you very knowledgeable
about the work being "surveilled."
Oh, and leave the weeds at the entrance. There's lots of clean
rooms here and we can't allow dirt or vegetation into them.
New stuff, Leonard. Doesn't even remotely resemble what you did in 1955. I
gave you the web site to research. What, did the BIG words stump you?
"BIG" is also an acronym now? [what will they think of next?]
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious? Antidisestablishmentarianism?
I'm working with HEMT, PHEMT, and GaSP devices. For radio
purposes...and some of that will bleed over to WiFax, one of the
IEEE 802 standard systems for broadband (it ain't "Wi-Fi" but one
of the families within the standard). DoD will own the plans per
terms of the overall contract, but the techniques and notebook
data aren't owned by da gubmint.
I bet you a dollar to a donut that the military specific application of that
technology is quite proprietary.
"Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious" is probably proprietary to Walt
Disney Productions. I don't know the details but the Disney
corporate buildings are at the corner of Verdugo and Buena Vista
in Burbank. "Antidisestablishmentarianism" is free for public
use, in some dictionaries. HEMT, PHEMT, and GaSP are
non-copyrighted process terms in the RF-electronics industry.
I'll meet you at the Krispy Kreme at the Empire Center in Burbank.
You bring the money, I'll bring the appetite.
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Now, how does your "COR" superiorness relate to the NCVEC
petition (RM-10870) and the term "Communicator" class of
amateur radio license? :-)
LHA / WMD
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