Subject: Why the caste system? was: NCVEC files license
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From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 3/31/2004 2:01 PM Central Standard Time
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(William) writes:

How many of Len's posts am I supposed to read?

All of them, Brainless One.

Nope.

Perhaps you might discover why it is that he does not warrant the
"respect" he THINKS he does.

I respect Len for his service, and I respect Len for his knowledge of
the art and science of radio.

Thank you, Brian. I respect your military service also.

Where did he say "military service"...???

When Len is given the opportunity to speak about radio, I listen in
because there is something to be learned.

It is very rare that the technology of radio is brought up in here,
quite possibly because so few have bothered to learn about it
or practice it...everyone is all concerned with operating and the
state of the art of rank-status-privilege, their collection of old
QST magazines, and the importance of obeying everything that
the ARRL commands them to do.

Conjecture at best.

There is an (unfortunate for all) spitefulness that someone who
has worked IN radio-electronics for over a half century and for
money (gasp!) can possibly comment on anything "amateur."
The spiteful are angry and outraged that anyone disturbs their
pipe dreams of honor and glory and national service of an
essentially avocational activity carried on for personal enjoyment.
They must spin tales, tails twirling, of their "national need" and
medal-worthy imagination of saving future civilization through
heroic fantasy stories about morsemanship in speculative
futures.

Your dissertations on the theoretical aspects of radio communications are
robust, even entertaining at times.

Your RANTINGS about Amatuer licensing, practive and programs are, in a
word, WEAK.

I also share Len's view that the Morse Code Exam requirement has long,
long since served its usefulness to the Amateur Radio community, and
should be retired as a licensing requirement. Should have been
retired a long time ago.

Irrelevant to the long-timers, the self-professed "leaders" of the
"amateur community" who wish to dictate to others that what
they enjoy must be practiced by all others...because they alone
are the imaginary spirit of amateur radio, the ones carrying the
symbolic torch of championship of the radio arts and "necessary"
communications modes. They have placed their symbolic laurel
wreaths (of expertise) on themselves, bravely defending their
alleged rights to be better than others in rank-status-privilege.
These "experts" disallow any dissent of their god-like opinions
for they are above any discussion with mere mortals like you
and me.

Rhetorical balderdash, it ate up bandwith and let you show off your
vocabulary,

Otherwise it was yet another venomous swipe at Amateur Radio....the same
kind of stugg that earns you your own rank-status-priviledge as King-of-the
Hill of mudslinging.

Meanwhile they are not cognizant that the FCC is still defining
International Morse Code to an obsolete ITU-T (not ITU-R)
document, CCITT Recommendation F.1 (1984) Division B,
I. Morse Code. That was still in the very official regulations'
definitions at 94.3 (a) (27) as of 1 October 2003. They don't
know what is contained within that Recommendation because
it is only available from the ITU and for a fee...or that it has
been superseded in nomenclature and some changes (other
than the astounding and oh-so-important addition of the @
character to the standard set) by the ITU-T; the CCITT itself
has been superseded entire by the ITU-T. The CCITT
document never defined a telegraphic "word" either in size or
for rate, it only defined the relative length of dot, dash, and
spacings. [you know this because I e-mailed a direct copy
of my ITU-T document file to you as a favor] Instead, the
arguments in here have raged on solely on the basis of
"everyone knows this!" as if all law and regulations are based
on some paranormal common knowledge.

Regardless of your interpretations of how the FCC is defining Morse Code
requirements, the fact is that it's being dealt with.

Unfortunately, there are some here that don't value Len's service,
radio knowledge, or opinion of amateur radio licensing requirements,
or all of the above. They want to exclude Len from the discussion
based upon no amateur license. As pointed out repeatedly, those who
make and enforce the regulations are not required to hold an amateur
license.

Irrelevant to the self-professed "leaders" and gods of amateurism.
Reality has no place in imaginary fantasyland imaginations of
glory and honor and national service through amateurism.

The "glory and honor (of) national service through amateurism (sic)" is
not one proffed by the Amateru community itself...It comes from countless
private and governmental agencies.

And in America, every citizen has a voice.

The First Amendment Rights have been overruled by these
self-professed "leaders." Evidence of that exists in the public
view on proceeding 98-143 for 25 January 1999.

Too bed that those 14 years of night school didn't teach you about the
Bill of Rights, Lennie.

You need to re-read them and see to whom the amendment applies. (hint:
it prevents the federal government from interfereing with the press...it does
not address private citizens.)

Those who are
tyrants do not believe this, and when they try to silence Len, they
must be willing to accept any and all repercussions of holding such an
assinine view.

Independent thought is not allowed in here. All must obey the
dictates of the self-professed "leaders" of amateurism in radio.
These "leaders" are without fault...all who disagree with them
are rewarded by a barrage of personal insults instead of
addressing the subject under discussion. The "leaders" rule
by barbarian warlord tactics of neighborhood gangsterism in
messaging.

Yeah...I see that "independent thought" with you hand up Brain's backside
to manipulate his mouth for you. Do you really try the "ventrilloquist" trick,
or do you use a tape recorder?

So I don't read all of Lens posts because its just some self-appointed
Sheriff and him barking at each other.

That is how it should be.

Actually it allows Brainless to formulate "opinions" based upon
less-than-consistent rantings from his "mentor". Unfortunately for the two of
you (and Brain moreso than Lennie), you are the only one's who can't appreciate
the humor of Brian's posts as he tries to follow in Lennie's "footsteps"...

A problem for casual readers in here is that the "leaders" cannot
survive arguments on the subject which contradict their cherished
myths and fables. The end result is much wasted time of these
individual "message warlords" competeting for personal status
as newsgroup "leaders." Among these regular "leaders" it doesn't
matter whether the subject is about amateur radio, it is all
concerned with the righteousness of their personal opinion
triumphing for them in any way possible. Amateur radio policy
is far down on the list topped by their Need To Be RIGHT!.

And that is how it is.

No, it's yet another Amateur-bashing free-for-all by a person known for
inaccuracies and intentional mistruths, embellished with an overactive
vocabulary and overly self impressed opinion of himself.

Not that Lennie leaves us much else to deal with.

Steve, K4YZ

LHA / WMD