In article , Leo
writes:
On 03 Apr 2004 19:28:24 GMT, (Len Over 21) wrote:
In article , "Carl R. Stevenson"
writes:
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Please excuse my absence. I am preparing some Replies to
Comments to my government on federal regulations.
Which is a very commendable and proactive thing to do - and is, as you
know, the only effective method of advising the regulatory folks of
valid objections to their proposed new rules and policies. The more
cogent objections that they receive, the better.
I've sent about 76 or so Comments to our FCC. Haven't made an
accurate tally lately but anyone can do it on the FCC ECFS
using just my legal signature name.
Thank you, Len, for taking the time to do so. Your effort is
appreciated.
Not everyone "appreciates" it. My first Comment was on FCC
98-143, the NPRM for Amateur Radio Restructuring. I was
quite busy with other things during 1998-1997 Holiday time
but got 14 text pages into the Commission a few days before
the official close of commentary (all paper, multiple copies, a
diskette, sent Express Mail registered).
12 days after my Comment appeared on the ECFS, the gunnery
nurse sent a "comment" which said absolutely nothing about
the contents of my text, just that "I had no business getting
involved in amateur radio matters because I had no license!"
[See proceedings 98-143 for 25 January 1999...still there]
Trying to cancel another citizen's basic First Amendment Right
is not to be taken lightly down in this country. There ARE self-
righteous SOBs here who think nothing of tramping all over
others' rights.
[SOB = Son Of Beeper in case Rev. Jim is listening in...]
Up to 3 years after that, a few in here wanted to ARGUE
that same Comment text content, extract several pounds of
flesh, etc., all at various times, just to make themselves feel
good, self-righteous, etc., etc. Necro-equine flaggelation.
But, that's all in the normal course of events. I've been doing
computer-modem communications for nearly 20 years and have
become rather thick skinned to all the yahoos who feel "safe"
cussing out other folks they don't like. :-)
["razzbonyas" = yahoos in some parts of Wisconsin, Minnesota]
I'm sure that you agree that those who do not see themselves as being
part of the solution are usually part of the problem.....
Actually, I don't. I see that some folks are just problems and the
subject matter is irrelevant as long as they have a Cuss Venue.
A few will actually take the time to discuss a subject civilly, but
that has always been rare.
No doubt I
will once again by rewarded by an Amateur Extra licensee
demanding I be censored and censured for exercising my First
Amendment Rights to my government.
Of course - more than one, most likely. And that syndrome is. I
think, what annoyed Carl enough to prompt this posting (and he
certainly ain't alone there...). For example, you post something,
then several others jump on you to 'prove you wrong', then others jump
on them to 'prove them wrong', etc. Newsgroup warriors (MinutiaeMen?)
all, fighting a never-ending battle for something or other.....but the
real issues, those which threaten the amateur radio hobby, will not
be decided in this forum. Or in that manner.
Heh heh heh..."MinutaeMen!" Apt. Bang-on as those in the UK say.
Decisions in here? Nil. But, checking the mail in here gives more
rounding to what two sides on an issue feel. Once in a rare while
there's a link to another site for information that may be useful.
"Link" other than the "go to ARRL website...worth a good read"
kind of imperative. :-)
Most of the heated battles that go on in any computer-modem
venue (regardless of subject) are almost entirely for attempts to
Get The Last Word Superiority Over Others...or to develop some
sort of Guru Image to Impress Others, get a "rep" or similar,
especially in a techie type of venue. Some of it is hilarious. :-)
It's been that way ever since Usenet got started decades ago,
got into BBS nets, and now infects all the newsgroups sooner
or later. There be a whole lot of murderous resentment by many
at being Talked Back To...their self-righteousness knows no
bounds!
My good buddy Patty once wrote a general remark when we
co-moderated a BBS public board, "Sometimes the loudest
sound you hear is your own mind screaming in the empty,
silent room." That's poetic and to the point for much of it.
But, having said that, now watch someone try to butt in, making
noises about intimations of misconduct with a "lady friend" even
though we were good friends of opposite gender. Some live to
throw dirt even if they are in a vast ocean. :-)
It would be good to see some of that energy channeled into positive
and proactive channels - such as replying to the FCC on issues which
threaten the hobby. Which you, and a few others, have done and
continue to do.
I totally agree. But, that takes actual WORK!
It's so much easier to sit back and toss [expletive deleteds] in a
newsgroup, pull others' chains, and snicker in the safety of time
and space isolation of network interchange delays. Some demand
both invisibility in identity and respect for something they can't
prove or reference. Marvelous. A fine catharsis for the timid.
Others, unfortunately, don't see it that way.
In my opinion, it's similar to the election process - if some guy
didn't take the time to go out and vote, who cares when he complains
that the wrong guy won....TS, I say.
Good point. But the complaining MUST go on...imperative...that's
"only human." :-)
In two decades of modeming, I've worn out several TS Card punches,
busy at clicking away at sooooo many cards! :-)
Censorship is wonderful, don't you wish everyone had it?
Not censorship - perhaps initiative?
Good choice.
But, I was remarking in a much different semantic direction. :-)
LHA / WMD