In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

In article , PAMNO
(N2EY) writes:

In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

For what it's worth, as of 6 April 2004, there were 282,948

That number includes expired licenses which are in the grace period. As of
April 11 2004, the number of current (non-expired) Technicians is 262,804.

Ho ho ho...you HAVE to start this all over again, don't you?

You "started" it, Len. You posted some interesting numbers. I'm simply
clarifying what they mean.

I just look at www.hamdata.com and accept that.

OK, fine. Those numbers include expired licenses that are in the grace period.
The number I posted do not. No problem.

YOU download the ENTIRE FCC database
and pass out copies on CDs. That way anyone can be very
busy little bees and MASSAGE data any way that suits them.

You're getting all upset over nothing, Len. Try to stay focused.

no-code-test Technicians in the FCC ham database. That's a
whopping 38.9 percent of all licensees who cannot, legally,
operate on ham bands below 6 meters.

Incorrect!

Since April 15, 2004 (4 years ago as of this coming Thursday), FCC has been
renewing all Technician Plus licenses as Technician. In addition, any
Technician who has passed Element 1 gets Novice/Technician Plus HF
privileges
even though the license and database still say "Technician".

In addition, anyone whose license has expired but is still in the database due
to being in the grace period cannot, legally, operate on any ham bands at all
until their license is renewed.

On 6 Apr 04 the number of all US amateur licensees, less club
calls, was 727,145. Divide that into 282,948 and you get 38.9%.

That's true. However, a significant number of those *do* have access to some HF
amateur frequencies. Your statement

"no-code-test Technicians in the FCC ham database. That's a
whopping 38.9 percent of all licensees who cannot, legally,
operate on ham bands below 6 meters."

Is simply not correct because it ignores Technician Pluses renewed as
Technician, as well as "Techs-with-HF"

That's OVER one-third of all licensees...even if you insist on your
VERSION of numbers.

Your version is still incorrect.