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Old May 17th 04, 12:22 PM
Steve Robeson K4CAP
 
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Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (William)
Date: 5/16/2004 8:37 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve Robeson, K4CAP) wrote in message
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Brain, do you need to have a piece of paper in hand that says "If
you are abruptly slapped with the open hand across the face, it will
be markendly and acutely painful" in order to know that it's true?


Please, not another threat to injure me.


Where's the threat?

I asked you if you need a piece of paper to know if a slap in the face
would hurt?

No one I know does, and no one I know who is invilved with or
knowledgeable of the MARS program argues with the concept that No Amateur Radio
= No MARS.

That you are inadequately knowledgeable of MARS programs and
policies to know otherwise is also true.


Now you lie.


No, I do not.

You continue to argue that if the licensed Amateur participants in the
MARS program ceased to participate, that the program would carry on.

I know better. So do people who are in the program. Anyone who can
"argue" against common sense obviously is ill-prepared to REALLY "argue" the
facts.

It's not stupid. Perhaps poorly worded, at least to a person such
as yourself who cannot understand the interdependence of the two.


Poorly worded? Naw, Wrongly Worded!

It's just wrong.


Nope. No Amateur Radio = No MARS. And the MARS program is

Still need that peice of paper to know a slap in the facr hurts,
Brain?


Nope. I need a cite from any applicable regulation to convince me
that your statement is true. Got one?


Nope. But then I've been a member of all three programs at one time or
another.

I know from EXPERIENCE that all three programs are dependent upon licensed
Radio Amateurs to conduct thier programs.

No Amateur Radio = No MARS.

It really is THAT simple.

That "Lennie is my hero" line REALLY put you out front!

Yep, he pulls out all the stops when he rubs your nose in your silly,
stupid statments. I don't. I try to remain civil. Apparently, you
don't respect civility.


Sure I do.


No, you don't.


Sure I do.

And right up to the part where you started in on your usual
crapola in THIS thread, I had made it a point of very carefully typing
B r i a n.


That was very sweet of you, but doesn't change just how wrong your
MARS=ARS claim was.


It's not wrong.

The Amateur Radio serice CAN live without MARS. There's precious little
that MARS programs do that Amatuers can't do or aren't doing already.

If, for some obscure reason, every licensed Amateur withdrew from MARS,
MARS would have to fold.

On the otherhand, if MARS folded up tomorrow, there'd be a lot of
disappointed Amateurs, however the Amateur Service would continue.

As for Lennie...the only "stops" he usually winds up pulling out
are the ones holding him and the rest of his fecally contaminated
verbal effluent back.


Geee, it just doesn't look that way from my perspective.


I am sure it doesn't. You have already proven that your perspective is
very...uhhhhhh...unique.

That he does it to himself (and now takes you along with him) is
evident. That he was once a person of accomplishment and
responsibility now fallen on his lack of character and honesty is
pitiful.


Odd, but I haven't seen much of Len lately. How nice of him to be
taking me along with him.

That you voluntarilly get in step behind him is laughable at best.


Its called, "The High Road."


In the Marines we learned that being up high wasn't always a good idea.
In either case, you often arrive at the same destination, just more tired for
your effort and without any benefit of having made the trip the long way
around.

So...we're even.

Maybe before God, or before the Law. But in very, very few other
ways.


You're right, but not for the reason I am sure YOU think...

SO FAR we are still waiting for you to back up your assertions
that "unlicensed radio services" play a "major role" in disaster
communications.


So? I hope you won't mind if I keep you waiting?


No problem here, Brian...It's YOUR black eye.

We're also waiting for you to back up your Somalia claims. You
continue to argue that "It's true because I say it's true", yet there
should be a paper trail wide enough to roller skate on to show where
your assertions are true.


But I never needed your blessing. You'll just have to roller skate
elsewhere.


I never offered my "blessing".

I have simply stated that an assertion without validation can be
considered invalid. Asserting something to BE true while proactively refusing
to validate it is lying.

And we still have your "Lennie is my hero" thing...Whew....

So you're right...it's not "even"...


Not even a little bit.


And again you're right, but not for the rason I am sure you THINK you are!

No one except everyone who knows enough about the current affairs
of the various MARS programs and thier dependence upon the Amateur
Radio service to make it work and sustain it.


If its so obvious to "everyone," then anyone should be able to post
the citation.

But they aren't.


Again...My analogy to being slapped in the face applies.

You will also notice that they AREN'T rushing to your defense, either.

Too bad YOU don't...Cudda saved yourself a lot of effort and
humiliation.


I haven't felt the slightest humiliation. How are you coming with
that citation? How are all of you backers coming with any citation at
all?

Best of Luck.


None needed...You make it too easy...Again.


Easy? I see no citation.


None needed.

Best of Luck.


For what?

Steve, K4YZ