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May 26th 04, 08:25 PM

In article , (Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 5/25/2004 6:20 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

In article ,
(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 5/25/2004 1:40 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:

Mama Dee is silent, apparently out disciplining other children.

Please remind us about all the off-spring YOU have raised, Lennie?

You really don't want to go there, little man.

Sure, Lennie.

YOU have suggested that you know something about child growth and
development, and have suggested that there should be an age limit placed upon
Amatuer Radio licensure based upon the supposed lack of maturity and
responsibility of same.

You stubbornly insist on going into this non-subject. OK.

The DoD may have a directive on parenting somewhere (irrelevant to
this subject) but there is NO connection of parenting to MARS
activities or regulations.

You are attempting to misdirect the subject again. Stay focussed on
the subject instead of letting your ADD take over again. [it does so
often]

That would presume that either (1) you have a degree in a health care or
mental health discipline that would prepare you educationally to make such a
suggestion, or (2) you raised to maturity an offspring or several offspring
that allowed you to make an informed opinion.

You presume too much. While you may not be able to observe other
humans, most of us are able to do so.

Proper mental health includes the ability to understand directives and
regulations and not try to redefine them for the sake of making some
message points in a newsgroup. You failed in that regard and refuse
to acknowledge that. That's mental aberration by yourself.

There is no "degree" or "credential" required to be a parent. Human
reproduction is done by unskilled people. Raising children to maturity
is more akin to a trial-and-error process...where, if the original result
is defective, there is no real hope of success. [that's life, tough as it
is] Even with a good product, it takes sensitivity and observation and
considerable compassion to raise a child to "maturity."

The degree of "maturity" is at question in your case. For example,
you've been given the identification of DoD Directive plus Regulations
of the Army, Air Force, and Navy in regards to MARS existance and
activities. Still, you stubbornly insist "MARS is amateur radio." It is
not.

You have no degree in ANY healthcare discipline that I am aware of.

A "degree in any healthcare discipline" is NOT required to operate,
design, or manufacture a radio.

A "degree in any healthcare discipline" is NOT required to obtain
any sort of radio license, operator or station.

You refuse to acknowledge any parenting experience.

Parenting is not a requirement to operate, design, or build a
radio.

Parenting is not a requirement to obtain any sort of radio license,
operator or station.

Ergo you have ventured into yet another realm of human endeavor for which
you have no knowledge or experience from which to make said suggestion.

The subject is the Military Affiliate Radio System.

It is not parenting.

It should be obvious to you but you can't see it...

The subject is the Military Affiliate Radio System.

It is not parenting.

Look at the top of your AOL mail screen display. It should say
"Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio"."

Fairly obvious to me...and anyone else using AOL software, even
with other browsers.

In as much as all I can see at this moment is the screen upon which these
words appear, you'd be correct.

I have only to repeat the official documents of the DoD and the three
major U.S. military branches in regards to MARS. Nowhere do
these documents state that "MARS is amateur radio."

You MAY have seen those, but it is difficult to discern. You keep
saying contrary statements when not personally attacking people.

If you suggest that I draw some conclusion from your silence, well,
that's
already done.

I wasn't speaking - at any time - of producing damaged children.

What a cast of characters to convince anyone of "enjoying the
magic of having one's very own radio station by learning morris
goad in order to talk legally via SSB."

Hot Flash, Hot Rod...

It's not required to learn Morse Code to use SSB.

I know that...in military and commercial radio. I used SSB voice
the first time in 1954 communicating with Hawaii from Tokyo.

I did much the same late last year talking from a moored
sailboat in a California marina.

Both times and all times in between WITHOUT needing an
amateur radio license!

But, without passing a manual telegraphy test, it is NOT LEGAL
to do that on U.S. amateur bands below 30 MHz.

"...below 30 MHz." is NOT what you said in the first post.

Don't try to quibble on words, you only dribble on the keyboard.

Part 97 of Title 47 C.F.R. is one of the smallest Parts and can
be understood by anyone...anyone without preconceived or
imaginary ideas.

You insinuated that it was necessary to know Morse Code to use SSB.

U.S. amateur radio regulations state that all amateurs must
demonstrate manual telegraphy skill by test in order to receive a
grant having privileges below 30 MHz. That's straightforward and
applies to ANY allocated modulation type.

SSB is used all throughout the VHF and UHF ranges by Amateurs.

Regulations say "phone" or voice communications.

When was the last time you used SSB on the 4mm band?

Your exploits in 1954 are irrelevent, both to discusssions about Morse
Code examinations and the use of SSB by licensed Amateurs.

Using SSB is a simple matter of operating, by adjusting the proper
radio controls. That can be done by NON-amateurs. :-) Some
private boat owners do it all time...just like I did in late 2003 from
a marina-moored sailboat. :-)

Hasn't been for 13 years.

You really CANNOT read Part 97 with any comprehension, can
you?

What part of Part 97 stumps you? Let us know and maybe one of
us can help you out...

The "M" in MARS = MILITARY

The "A" in MARS = AFFILIATE

MARS is NOT amateur radio.

Get some mental help...

Lennie, YOU are the idiot that keeps jumping from trying to make some
analogy between your Army radio clerk days in the 1950's and the present day
Amateur Radio examination requirements, then jump to trying to tell me what
the MARS program is all about.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Still on Fantasy Island?

I was NEVER an "Army radio clerk." My MOS was 281.6, Microwave
Radio Relay Operations and Maintenance Supervisor. That's what it
says on my DD-214. That's what I did...as well as being a Fixed
Station Radio Operations and Maintenance Supervisor plus a number
of other secondary (brevet) MOSs such as VHF radio relay and
carrier equipment.

I don't "jump to trying to tell you anything." [nobody can] Since you
FAILED to provide any references for your statements about MARS,
for three weeks time, I just did a simple Internet search and found the
appropriate documents and their identification and then posted that
here. I've downloaded all those documents for reference.

NONE of those downloaded documents says "MARS is amateur
radio."

The "M" in MARS = MILITARY

The "A" in MARS = AFFILIATE

MARS frequencies are NOT in allocated amateur bands. MARS
callsigns are not legal to use as identification within amateur radio
bands and amateur radio callsigns are not legal to use as
identification outside of amateur radio bands.

MARS is not defined in the U.S. amateur radio regulations nor is it
regulated by the FCC.

MARS is NOT amateur radio.

Seems to me YOU are the one in need of help.

The world is wrong but nursie is right? Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Putz.

You keep on with filthy profanities as a salutation. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

You need another shot of penicillin. You are still discharging.

LHA / WMD