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Old May 28th 04, 10:38 PM
Steve Robeson K4CAP
 
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Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
From: (Len Over 21)
Date: 5/28/2004 3:58 PM Central Standard Time
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(Steve
Robeson K4CAP) writes:

Subject: MARS IS "Amateur Radio".
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(Len Over 21)
Date: 5/28/2004 1:41 AM Central Standard Time
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MARS is NOT amateur radio.

That is repeated in AR 25-6, AFI 33-106, USN-USMC Communications
Instruction NTP8 (C).

MARS is NOT amateur radio.


Amateur Radio is the entity with which the MILITARY is AFFILIATED
with...

No Amateur Radio = No MARS.

It really is THAT simple.


Your intelligence is "THAT simple."

If MARS required amateur radio to exist, then it would not need the
military documents creating it and regulating it.


Sure it would.

Any authorized interaction between the Armed Forces and any civilian
entity requires that it be authorized by appropriate headquarters. The Red
Cross, Civil Air Patrol, US Coast Guard Auxiliary, etc etc are "civilian"
organizations, yet there are MILITARY regulations that enable interaction
between the Armed Forces and those entities.

Are you telling me that those organizations wouldn't exist without a
"military document creating and regulating it"...?!?!

I understand that YOUR point is that MARS is a program promulgated BY the
Armed Forces.

The FACTS are that MARS needs those civilian operators to make the program
work.

The FACTS are that almost all of the persons running the program are NOT
military personnel and are NOT on the payroll of DoD to be there.

The FCC doesn't define MARS or regulate MARS or anything else
about MARS.


It doesn't have to.

MARS is MILITARY. The Department of Defense has explained it.


Sure it is.

And without licensed Amateur Radio operators to "staff" the program with,
it wouldn't be able to function. It would be "defunct".

Have you found out what an AN/FRC-93 is yet?


Have you been issued an NNN0xxx/T callsign yet?

How about a KG6xxx callsign?

How does it pertain to Amateur Radio and it's interaction with the MARS
program...???

Why do you find it necessary to try and redirect when you know you are in
a corner?

[we know you haven't seen, let alone read DoD Directive 4650.2,
much less NTP 8(C)...quit trying to bluff your way out of this]


I am not trying to "bluff" my way "out" of anything, Sir Scumbag.

No Amateur Radio = No MARS.

It really is THAT simple.

MARS is NOT amateur radio.

[except in your imagination...]

Dismissed.


Not by a documented pathological liar like you, Lennie. Not in this life
or forum, nor any other.

Now...How's that MARS application coming?

Passed that "Extra Lite" out of the box yet?

How about that Part 15-legal station you were going to put on 20 meters?

Or perhaps you'd like to regale us with more of your exploits as a student
pilot in the 50's? You certainly got your tailed rocked on when you tried ot
demonstrate your knowledge about current NAVAID systems and CAP's active
aircraft inventory, yet you continue to denigrate my licensure as a pilot.
That's available on the Internet.

Then we can move along to your investigation as to wheter or not my
"service claims" are valid or not. You've certainly been provided more than
enough information to get THAT right by now. That's available on the
Internet, too.

And while you're at it, please tell us once again how many pieces of
traffic YOU were directly responsible for handling in 1953 while assigned as a
rear area radio clerk? "1.2 million", was it...?!?!?

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ