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Old June 20th 04, 11:19 PM
Len Over 21
 
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In article , (Steve
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Subject: Able Baker Charlie
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Date: 6/19/2004 6:58 PM Central Standard Time
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In article ,

(Len Over 21) writes:


and I mention that
the U.S. military quit using manual telegraphy for fixed-point
communications in 1948.


They did? Everywhere?

Or did they simply start phasing it out in 1948?

And what about non-fixed-point communications, such as between ships?


I guess we can throw out as "irrelevent" the fact that there has been
rather thorough documentation of the Armed Forces' use of "manual telegraphy"
for routine communications right up to the 80's....And NOT "spoon fed by ARRL
publications".


And what might those "documentation" be, big-time military
communicator?

It couldn't be DoD Directive 4650.2 (eff. 21 Nov 03) because nursie
sure as heck doesn't understand that.

How about all the alleged uses in Vietnam, 1962 through 1970, as
documented on the U.S. Army Center for Military History website?
Can't be that one, nursie never saw it, let alone read it.

How about Field Manual FM 24-24, December 1994, the index of
Signal Equipment? [available at the Gen. Dennis J. Reimer
digital library, public distribution, even linked-to by several ham
websites] It has all the land forces signal equipment in there,
but, alas, no code keys. Tsk, tsk.

How about "From Flares To Satellites," a USAF history document
available for public download from the USAF Communications
Agency website (public distribution also, but large at ~14 MB but
has pictures for those who can't understand words with more than
two capitalized letters such as "CW")?

Sunnuvagun! Not a single one of those predates the 1990s!

Must be a Big Conspiracy to "hide CW from the masses?"

Riiiight...the motion picture "Independence Day" showed us all
the REAL truth where "CW" is used to defeat alien space
invaders!!!!

Of course those are FACTS, and facts don't sit well with one who can't
stand the truth.


Riiiiiight. In nursieland there be only "FACTS" put there by nursie.


Okay, any positive statements about morse code are allowed
and even honored even though some of the individuals involved
are obviously fish stories.


"some of the individuals involved are obviously fish stories."??

What does that mean?


It means that if it ruins one of Lennie's rants it but be a fish story.


Tsk, tsk, tsk...nursie added that nastygram just for the halibut.


Those against morse code are evil,
wicked, mean, and nasty, are always incorrect and should never
be considered. :-)


Why should anyone be "against morse code"?


Becasue to be "for" Morse Code is to be AGAINST Lennie...Can't have that
now!


Who is "becasue?" [spelled Becky Sue wrong, nursie]

So...the morse code TEST issue is not for U.S. amateur radio
licensing?!?!?

It is all about nursie's hatred and outrage over someone he calls
"Lennie?"

tsk, tsk. Nurise either gone bonkers or has mis-read Steinbeck's
"Of Mice And Men." [the character of Lenny does a murder in
that one...]


So, some olde-tyme hamme can say he "shot bears for navel
intelligence" and that be okay. Navel intel is fine as long as
person is for morse code.


Do you mean the pictures taken by W3RV? Guess what - they're real. Like it or
not, civilian contractors do go out on US Navy ships. And they do see - and
photograph - some pretty unusual stuff.


Riiiiiight. All the newsgroup readers have seen those "real pictures."

Suuurrrrre. :-)

Nursie done flipped out, big time. tsk, tsk.

Yup, like nursie believe Kellie has "26 patents?" :-)

[actually, only one, the other 25 are foreign filings for the same
thing...which doesn't beat mine (3,848,191) assigned to RCA
which has 27 foreign filings...:-) ]


Once again Lennie displays his colors with the "olde tyme hamme"
reference.


Poor baby. Resent getting to be an OF? [pushing 50, nursie, quit
pretending to be under 30...get a toupee and get those teeth fixed]


Do you think it's OK to tell someone else in a newsgroup to "shut up", Len?


Obviously he does. He does it frequently. Usually when he's got his

tail
caught under yet another rocking chair, which is pretty frequently these
days!


Riiiiight. The OF diss-and-cusser wants to more of the same
because his license (engraved border, suitable for framing)
says it is "okay" for him to diss-and-cuss since he passed a
test! :-)


The ROE of this newsgroup is:

1. Any kind of language or lack of civility by any morse code
proponent is perfectly acceptible, even encouraged.


No it isn't.


Tsk, tsk, tsk...VERY true by easily observed examples. :-)

For years. :-)

KH2D was a master at that. Learn from the master, grasshopper.

No more or no less than the use of blatant profanity by allegedly college
educated, "professional" engineers who are "against" Morse Code.


Well, heck and darn, gotta cut down on all those profane words
like "eliminate the morse code test," certainly those terrible
four-letter words like "code" and "test." :-)

Some sissies in here get into hissy-fits with strong language!

2. Anything said by anyone who does not love, honor, cherish
morse code is to be denigrated, insulted, vilified, and looked
at nasty just because of what they think.


Not at all.


No more or less than the insistence by certain alleged "professionals"
that Amateurs show awe and reverence to them as our "superiors"...Recent
suggestions by one of those alleged professionals that some in this forum are
"jealous" or otherwise despise them for BEING an (alleged) engineer is a
prime example.


Awe shucks, Maude, sissie inna hissy-fit again, him
laffin' an' carryin' on about superior intellect or somthin'...

tsk, tsk, tsk...

All of those sub-
humans must always behave civilly and show respect for the
code lovers even if the code lovers are behaving as iceholes.

That pretty well sums it up.

Really?


Again with the inference of profanity.

Some professional.


"Icehole" is profane? Nursie insulting Minnesotans' big winter
sport locations? Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Well, maybe I should have split it into two words?

Ya know, like "Nursie is an ice hole."

Sound better?


Rev. Jimmie, go back to Google where you live...

WHO is "Rev. Jimmie", Len?


Sheeesh, Jim...You don't expect Lennie will ever live up to his own
rhetoric and treat others in the same way he demands that HE be
treated...even when you ARE treating him the way he expects...?!?!


Yup, Maude, sissie still got the hissy-fits...

Almost seven years now and I STILL have yet to see him do as he
professes or what he says he will do.


Well, I admit that trying to change the FCC's mind on eliminating
the morse code test from U.S. amateur radio licensing IS a
long, hard task. Been at that since 1988. Sooner or later, that
WILL happen... :-)

Yes, I did officially retire in 1997 and I AM enjoying that, as I
said I would. :-)

This project of inventing anti-gravity IS VERY DIFFICULT.
Not going at all as good as I expected. Something is holding
me down...

Temper fry...

LHA / WMD