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(Len Over 21) wrote in
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(William) writes:
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(Brian Kelly) writes:
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and I mention that
the U.S. military quit using manual telegraphy for fixed-point
communications in 1948.
They did? Everywhere?
Or did they simply start phasing it out in 1948?
And what about non-fixed-point communications, such as between
ships?
And what about the CW courses still being taught at Fort
Huncha-something somewhere in the southwest? Ohyez, the feds still
have an abiding and ongoing interest in the use of CW.
"Abiding?!?" Crock.
Fort Huachuca is the Military Intelligence center for the U.S.
Army.
One duty of M.I. is to run intercepts on foreign communications.
Some foeign countries still think that manual telegraphy is
"effective" so the M.I. teach morse code to intercept
analysts. For LISTENING.
The only "use" for morse code is in LISTENING, of intercepts,
ELINT.
The U.S. military does NOT use manual telegraphy for
radio communications. [USN blinker lights are not radio]
The Signal Corps is the communications branch of the Army.
The Signal Center is at Fort Gordon, GA. The Signal Center
doesn't teach any morse code receiving or sending.
Katapult Kellie should valve off all that steam and join the
rest of the world in this new millennium.
Good luck on that one, now...
LHA / WMD
Even the FCC and VEC's quit administering a Morse sending test. They
only administered a receiving test.
Hmmmmm?
Maybe the sending test would have been a disincentive to CW use on HF.
There must be some mental block induced by too much
morsemanship. The morsemen can't understand reality.
Or, they are so immersed in their only radio service active
in morsemenship that they are totally blind to all other radio
services. Might be a good project for some PhD candidate in
psychology as a Dissertation.
Time has stopped for the morsemen. They continue to live in
the past, imagining glories lives of navel high society, "hostile
actions," mighty titles of importance, all from morsemanship
credentialism.
Back some 49 years ago, NATO released their phonetic
alphabet. Phonetic alphabets are of no use for manual
telegraphy...apply only to voice communications. Just the
same, the morsemen keep insisting everyone still uses "CW"
(manual on-off carrier keying telegraphy) for military
communications.
Their minds are warped, living in fantasies of their own beeping.
LHA / WMD
Yes, they are living in the past. This has nothing to do with the merits or
otherwise of their beloved mode, simply that the world has unquestionably
moved on and they have not.
It brings me in mind of the Jethro Tull song "Too Old to Rock 'n' Roll, Too
Young To Die", not just the title, but all the words. As any afficionado
knows, this of course appeared on an album entitled "Living In The Past"!
This is the ultimate anthem to clinging to youth, which we all tend to do,
even those of us who can't stand that d*mn bleeping!
Alun, wait until you attend some anniversary thing, like my
wife and I did in 2001 for the 50th Reunion of our senior high
school class in the midwest. Not only was that fun, it was an
ice-water bath on "wanting" to recapture one's youth...or, for
some others, to desperately seek to return. :-)
If you listen to/read the lyrics of the whole song, you'll see that Ian
Anderson saw it as no bad thing. What is truly pernicious, and constitutes
the difference between him and them, is that so many morsemen want to drag
others kicking and screaming into the past!
I suggested Brainwashing was responsible some time ago.
I've also said it was an extension of the human territorial
imperative - their "turf." They MUST defend turf! What they
did was so awesome, so perfect, and so hard, that all must
exactly emulate their mighty and powerful accomplishments!
Funny in a way. I described my military assignment at ADA
a half century ago - which I wouldn't care to repeat at all - and
all the beepers in here went bonkers. They screamed and
hollered, called lots of bad names, made snarly comments
about "trying to be superior, etc." when all it did for me was
to convert me from the previous opinion of radio as "belonging
to amateur style (of pre-WW2 days) as shown in ham mags"
into the reality of big-leagues HF radio communications. ADA
was only about the third largest in the Army net but it was
impressive as heck in 1953 with three dozen HF transmitters
and doing 220 thousand messages a month traffic in 1955.
The general commentary was probably based on simple
envy because only Hans Brakob in here has any comparable
military communications experience. Jim Hampton comes
close. Brian Burke was in military meteorology not
communications but the met guys need radio communications.
State Department isn't strictly military and most of the postings
of that "foreign service" person weren't to massive messaging
embassies. Since the U.S. military hasn't used manual
telegraphy for fixed-point to fixed-point communications since
1948, the PCTA got all angry and frustrated about not not
loving morsemanship or pledging allegiance to the key.
[from time to time the Armenian judges chanted and
demanded a recount...]
It got worse after my initial posting about military radio
experience. My whole career was labeled in the worst
possible light, even to one saying all I said was a "lie" and
so forth...that I "disgraced the IEEE" by existing. :-)
It even got to the point where another professional in the
industry started sneering and nastygraming about my
(actual radio) experience as a design engineer...all because
of not loving and cherishing morse...and for not following up
on "life promises (always to be kept)" which became to
bizarre for words. :-)
Now there are long, lonnng, lonnnnng posts on politics and
very one-sided emotional diatribes of presidential candidates
where all that bandwidth could have been used for the actual
subject heading (BPL) which is a direct threat to anyone who
uses HF. Not one peep (except from me and Mike Coslo) on
the subject of BPL.
I guess that Raging Against People Never Met is the whole
parcel of what this newsgrope is about...