William wrote:
 Dave Heil  wrote in message ...
  Len Over 21 wrote:
  
   In article , Dave Heil 
   writes:
   
   Len Over 21 wrote:
   
    In article , 
   (Steve
    Robeson K4CAP) writes:
   
    Subject:  The Game's Afoot!
    From:   (Len Over 21)
    Date: 6/23/2004 12:13 AM Central Standard Time
    Message-id: 
 
         You hate Amateur Radio and Amateur Radio licensees.  That's blatantly
    obvious.
   
       No.  Amateur radio is a fine hobby, interesting, a fine recreation
       with great technological learning capabilities.
   
   Aside from hearsay or SWLing, how would you know, Leonard?
  
      Heil, you've done that schtick already.  It doesn't apply.  It
      doesn't work.  Give up on that ploy.
 
  It isn't schtick and it is no ploy, Leonard.
 
  If some kid, assuming that he is above the age which you believe should
  be the minimum for amateur radio licensing, comes to you and says, "What
  can you tell me about amateur radio, Mr. Anderson?", the best you'll be
  able to do is tell him that you heard from a friend that amateur radio
  is....
  or that you read in a book that amateur radio is...
 
  You're shucking and jiving, Leonard.
 
  Dave K8MN
 Interesting.
I think so.
  I once said that a prospective ham almost had to know a
 ham to become a ham.
I don't recall that.
  Then you guys set upon me like the pack of wild
 dogs that you are...
Which "you guys" would that be?
 ...telling me of acts of heroism...
Acts of heroism?  I don't believe you.
 how you got the book
 and read it and went down to the steely-eyed fcc examiner and became a
 ham.  No sir!  No help from no one.
Novice exams weren't taken in front of any FCC examiner, much less a
stelly-eyed examiner.  K8CFT wasn't steely-eyed at all. SK W8MN sparked
my interest in becoming a ham but he couldn't learn the theory for me
and I'd moved to a different town by the time I began practicing morse
to increase my speed.
 So Len could tell the kid to get a book.
Oh, he wouldn't likely do that.  He'd go into one of his Foghorn Lenhorn
pontifications.
  Which according to your
 comment above, a book just isn't going to give sufficient information
 to be able to answer questions about amateur radio.
A book can provide information to an extent.  No good golfer became one
by reading a book.  No good fisherman became one by reading a book.  No
good radio op became one by reading a book.  Practice and experience are
the keys.  Len has neither.
 You guys play both ends against the middle, and now that you've worked
 down to the middle, your arguments fail because they are
 contradictory.  Go argue with yourself.  You, K8MN, are shucking and
 jiving.
I'd say that they appear contradictory to you, "William", because you
don't fully understand them.
"You don't need a former military weatherman to know which way the wind
blows"
Dave K8MN