In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

N2EY wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote in message
...

N2EY wrote:

In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

Leave the space business stuff to the industry experts, like those
two who have already pontificated aplenty on How To Do Space
without having any space biz experience. :-)

Translation: Len wants us to shut up. Next step is him calling us
"feldwebels"

I don't know what a "feldwebel" is, but it sounds like a "weeble".

Feldwebels wobble but they don't fall down?

It's German for the military rank of "corporal". Which is the rank a
certain mid-20th century German chancellor held in the Wehrmacht in
WW1.

Here's the original post:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...001553%40mb-m1
8.aol.com&output=gplain

oh - btw, while on the space exploration thing...

I have no doubt that it's technically feasible to go back to the Moon,
establish a base there, and even to go to Mars. I have high cofidence that all
of the technical problems could be solved. It's just very expensive.

The problem isn't one of engineering - it's one of public policy. And such
problems are *not* to be left up to those "in the business".

Here's one way to go to Mars:

First, you need a lowcost method of getting things into earth orbit. The
"unmanned cargo space shuttle" idea is one way. Mass production of
purpose-designed dockets is another.

Second, a couple of unmanned supply ships are assembled in earth orbit. They're
unmanned because it's simpler to do it that way. There are a couple of them in
case one or two don;t make the journey intact.

Third, as soon as the supply ships are ready, they are launched towards Mars.
It may take them years to get there but it's of no consequence because they are
unmanned.

Fourth, a duo or trio of manned Mars ships are assembled in earth orbit.
There's more than one of them in case trouble develops. These ships carry only
people and the essential supplies for the trip. The landers and Mars surface
equipment are on the supply ships. This is done to reduce the weight of the
manned ships. They're "hot rods" in that they are designed primarily for speed.
They're launched towards Mars at the optimum time for a minimum-time trip. They
go to Mars, rendezvous with the supply ships and then the landers on the supply
ships go down to the Martian surface. When the surface mission is done, the
astronauts get back in the manned ships and come home.

I think all of the technical problems could be solved but the cost would be -
astronomical.

but...but Mike, we're just amateurs! With "vacuum tube transmitters"!
Len has told us many, many times how we're nowhere near "state of the
art",

Oh dear... I'm confused... I like both SOA equipment *and* tube radios.
It's all good!

I have a confession to make....I actually have a vacuum tube transmitter...and
what's worse - I still use the thing, and even worse....I *enjoy* it...

how we live by "standards of the 1930s",

Whatever that is.

It means actually using Morse Code on the air, and thinking it's useful.

how we're not really
involved in emergency work,

hmm, I am. Plus whatever public service work that comes my way.

nor technical advancement, etc., etc.,
etc. He's also been consistently critical of ARRL, even to the point
of accusing them of fraud (with absolutely no evidence).

Yeah, I've read that. There are always some people that hate the big
dog in any kennel.

There are some who think we don't need a strong national organization at all.

Also seems to think that I am somehow responsible for the posts of
others....

Now he seems to think we should know how to defeat BPL - even though
he doesn't.

Odd. Very odd.

High expectations for the 1930's standards people, eh?

Yep.

73 de Jim, N2EY