In article , Mike Coslo writes:

N2EY wrote:
In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

It's weird for sure, but I think it is a result of what some people
have tried to do to adolescents regarding their sexuality.

Deny they have any?

Correct! And when a fundamental drive is suppressed, it always comes
out in some weird other way.

Exactly. Bertrand Russell once said something on the order that his students
should all just go do the wild thing so they'd be able to concentrate on math
in his classes.

Using AIDS
fear as a lever, some people have tried abstinance programs as a cure
all for STD's, and golly gawrsh, it just happens to fit into their
morality view. What they are trying to do is distinctly unnatural.
Humans reach sexual maturity at one age, and we are trying to enforce
celibacy until they reach their late 20's early 30's, when they are
supposed to marry and have kids. So celibacy is supposed to take 20 of
the most fertile years of your life and you aren't supposed to do
anything. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Fun facts:

- Research shows that the *average* age of puberty has been dropping over
the past several generations, particularly in girls. Yet the age of first
marriage has been rising even faster. Go back to the time of "Little Women"
(War Between
the States era) and the delay between puberty and typical first marriage
was
only a few years (even for Yankees). Today it's a lot more - and for folks
looking to go to college and grad school and start a career, even longer.
So of
course the reality becomes that there's an official message (abstinence)
and
what actually goes on in people's lives (something quite different from
abstinece).

Agreed. And when you only lived to an average age in the lower 40's, it
was easier to stay married to one person only.

That's part of the equation. Another was the fact that a person's role in
the family was well-defined. If someone did A, B and C, they were a "good
husband", and like wise doing X, Y and Z made a "good wife". Today the
expectations are not only higher but also not well defined.

- The whole abstinece thing is a relatively new invention. Research shows
that
about 1/3 of Colonial-era brides were expecting on their wedding day.

Reminds me of the story of the old guy in confession....

HAR! I liked that one....

"I'm telling everybody!"

73 de Jim, N2EY