Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Dave Heil retired oberst in das
Amatur Schutz Staffel writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:
In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

No, Mike. You've gone over to the dark side of the force. You've
kept
silent
on the insulting behavior of these U.S. radio amateur "extras" and
then
tried to encourage turning this newsgroup into a private little Chat
Room.

I keep quiet on all sorts of insulting behavior. I'm not here to
comment on others insulting behavior.

So...you condone it by not commenting.

I don't recall you making any comments regarding the Killing Fields of
Cambodia. By your logic, you condone what was done.

There was a DXepedition to Cambodia? !

I didn't write of a DXpedition. What would a DXpedition mean to you?

By Heilian "logic" whatever Heil (the emperor) says is "true!"

:-)

Well, that's certainly odd. You seem to be the only individual making
such a claim. :-) :-)

You like the image that some extras display worldwide in here?

What's it to you, Leonard. How are you involved in amateur radio? Do
you like the image that you convey here?

What's it to YOU, Davie?

That's easy. I *am* a radio amateur. This *is*
rec.radio.amateur.policy.
Now, wasn't that easy, old fellow?

Why do you insist on being some kind of robust oberst shouting
out the "proper" Way To Go?

I'm not shouting, Leonard. Why is "Way To Go" capitalized?

Nobody appointed you "leader" of anything. Not even leider.

Leader? Hell, you aren't even involved in amateur radio.

You singing the wrong song.

Rerax and sip you Ripton Tea, Ren. Your Charlie Chan bit is tiring.

I'm putting you down on the PCTA self-righteousness group...on
the basis of your subject postings. Have fun! :-)

I've been a PCTA for a long time.

No one is perfect.

You're coming awfully close, Leonard. A little cosmetic surgery on your
posterior should do the trick.

Tsk, tsk, robust oberst. A segue to personal insults again?

Do me the kindness of looking at the line beginning "In article..." near
the top of this message. Would you say that the fellow who wrote the
material following the message ID number is acting in an insulting
manner?

Try not to picture the rest of us as looking like yourself.

I'm not picturing the "rest of us" at all, Len. I was just picturing
*you*. Actually you don't look at all like me. That photo of you in
the nose of the airplane, expounding your opinions on amateur radio
regulation shows that the part doing the talking isn't near the cranium.

No need
at all here to remove cellulite from the gluteus maximus.

I wasn't addressing fat content. I was addressing perfection.

Putting me down as self righteous? You can do that if you wish. You
seem to have a thing about labels.

No, I'll take that back. You are very busy trying to excuse yourself
from
any "conflict" in here, trying to run down the very middle of the road.

In a way, that is a form of self-righteousness...that of being so
"important"
that you won't Get Involved in any conflicts (you are "above" that).

Talk about someone being self-righteous, Len!

You do that all the time. FOLLOW ORDERS!

What orders?

DO AS YOU DID!

I've never ordered you to do anything, much less to do as I did. You
can't possibly do as I did.

DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES,
TRY TO CHANGE GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS!!!!

Are you ordering me or telling me that I ordered you? If it is the
latter, you're dead wrong.

Heil must have those ORDERS on a bulletin board in front of
his retirement home...

Why would I do that?

You're in no way involved
in amateur radio, yet you claim that radio amateurs and those who
regulate them should come around to your way of thinking on how amateur
radio should best be regulated.

Poor baby. Feeling a chill from the possibility that FCC might
change regulations and remove your brag raison d'etre about
mighty macho morsemanship and amateurism?

Poor Leondardo. Whether the regulations are changed, you'll still in no
way, be involved in amateur radio. If the regulations governing U.S.
amateur radio are changed, I'll still be proficient in the use of morse
as well as a number of other modes.

You are snarling (with fear) in the dark of the graveyard, robust
oberst.

"The dark of the graveyard"? "Snarling"? "Fear"? Are you out of your
cotton pickin' mind?

You do NOT enforce any regulations.

Nope. I operate under them. You neither operate under nor enforce
amateur radio regulations.

You do NOT make any regulations.

Nope. I operate under them. You neither operate under nor make amateur
radio regulations.

Quit trying to pretend you are some kind of
"official authority" on who can do what. It looks so silly...like
some schoolyard bully trying to "enforce" his way of thinking
on all the kids...

The kids are all radio amateurs. You aren't. Quit trying to pretend
that you are some kind of "official authority" on how amateur radio
should be regulated. It looks stupid. What are you--some kind of
schoolyard bully, trying to force your way of thinking on all the kids?

You do NOT present a pleasant picture of U.S. amateur radio,
trying to "enforce" it like it was some kind of national service
rather than a fun hobby.

You don't present *any* kind of picture of U.S. or any other country's
amateur radio.


You aren't "leader" and the hobby isn't
some paramilitary "service" of macho fighting men.

In addition to not being a leader, you aren't involved in amateur radio
anywhere on the planet. That is evident from your silliness about
"paramilitary".

Give up the territorial imperative of MAKING all others Do As
You Did...just because You Did It.

Not only have I not issued an imperative, I've never made a claim that
all others should do as I did. In fact, I've stated quite plainly and
quite often that it is impossible for newcomers to do as I did. The
regs have changed a number of times. So there isn't any "just because I
did it". Now, don't you look silly?

You don't own that right.
You don't even have that right.

It would be nice if your earlier rant hadn't been shot down by a beam of
fact.

The rest of us citizens enjoy the freedom to comment on federal
regulations and - AMAZINGLY - the power to petition for changes
in them! Sunnuvagun! How about that?

You've petitioned. You've commented. So far, nobody in authority is
doing much about your petitions and comments. As to "Sunnuvagun", you
cribbed it from Hans Brakob and he stole it from Cass WA6AUD.

Why are you so bloody insistent on trying to withhold that RIGHT
from your fellow citizens?

Your RIGHT is intact, as pointed out above. I'm under no obligation to
agree with you, refrain from laughing at you, to take you seriously or
to keep from pointing out that you have some really stupid ideas.

You see, that would interfere with my rights.

Dave K8MN