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August 24th 04, 09:35 PM

PAMNO (N2EY) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Jim Hampton) writes:

Nothing said about
CW only *now*, the question is "never was". In that case, there
certainly was CW only sub-bands (at least I'm pretty sure). The
novice portions of the bands when I was a novice in 1962 were portions
of 80, 40, and 15 meters (there was 2 meter phone available back then
for novices). Novices were crystal contol only and all amateurs were
limited to 75 watts *input* in the novice bands (but higher class
licensees could use VFOs). I don't recall at all where rtty was
permitted, but not in the novice bands.

Sorry, Jim, that's not the case.

When you were a Novice in 1962, RTTY was permitted in the Novice bands. Just
not to Novices! On 80 it was allowed from 3500 to 3800 kHz, on 40 from 7000 to
7200, etc. (remember that the voice/image subbands were different then). So a
Novice could have had to deal with RTTY QRM.

Of course in those days there weren't many hams (percentagewise) with RTTY, and
they tended to operate away from the Novice segments anyway. But it was legal
then for Generals, Advanceds, Extras and Conditionals to run FSK in the Novice
subbands. And it's been legal ever since (including 1976) - just not for
Novices, and, later, Techs-with-HF and Tech Pluses.

The reason you didn't hear amateur RTTY in the 1962 Novice bands was
gentleman's agreements and good operating practice.

The only 'digital' modes
would have been cw and rtty. I do wish I had the old handbook from
1960 however.

I've got a '54, '57, '64, and many more.

Lost that once I went into the service in January of
1967. Gawd, I wanna cry when I think of the *tons* of QSTs and 73s
that I got rid of at that time .....

I may have some of them!

All QSTs are available on CD. But for post WW2 issues it may be cheaper to buy
the actual mags used. I've got a few from that era if you're interested..

Some time back I saw a website where every issue of 73 was planned to be
available. I think they'd show you a few pages, then you'd need a membership
for a nominal fee to download the rest.

73 de Jim, N2EY

Hello, Jim

Well, I truly was *not* sure. Thanks for the information, however.
Amazing how long these threads get over something which is not
particularly earthshaking these days

I do remember a time in the late 70s when 73 magazine was *huge*.
That magazine had to be 3/8 of an inch thick back then. I've seen
some nice articles in some of those (but they, too, are a long time
gone).

I keep thinking about getting back on HF. I'll likely go web surfing
for construction ideas on some loop antennas (I'd still like to get
back on 160 and that would be the only way I could possibly do it).
Meanwhile, it's the old dipole in the attic currently (on 10) plus 440

It is, of course, at right angles to the cables to the satellite
tv dish

Best regards from Rochester, NY
Jim AA2QA