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Old September 17th 04, 09:21 PM
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Dave Heil wrote in message ...
N2EY wrote:

In article , Dave Heil
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Len Over 21 wrote:

I'm not claiming "hostile action" experience in the military. :-)

"Jeff, you've never been under Incoming, have you? While
trying to get return artillery support on a radio while your
ears, your whole body is numbed by HE infall on your
position? Most folks in that position don't wet their
pants...every sphincter tightens up, ears go deaf, eyes
close tight, and every breath may be the last."

--Len Anderson, 2000


:-)


Oh yes, the classic "sphincter post". You shoulda posted the whole thing,
Dave
- it was classic how Len tore into Jeff/KH6O's recollection of experiences in
big-time radio. (If running 500 kHz at NPM, handling all sorts of traffic,
weather and SOS operations wasn't big-time radio, nothing was).


It should be mentioned that the NPM mentioned above was the Coast
Guard (military) station in Hawaii, smack dab in the biggest ocean on
Earth. Big-time squared. Of course the operation used Morse Code in a
big way - and not in the 1930s, either, but about a half-century
later.

So of course Len had to denigrate and disrespect such operation.

Len's view is that no one else has ever handled high volume radio
traffic; no one else has ever used high power equipment.


Naw, it's simpler than that: Len hates Morse Code, he hates most of
ham radio, particularly the traditional parts, and wants to see it
wiped out or transmogrified into something very different from what
you and I think of as ham radio.

There are some
hams who can come near, some who can equal and some who can exceed his
experience *and* who are radio amateurs as well. Some don't care for
morse code. Some use it at times. Some use it quite often. Some use
it exclusively.


Of course. But that's not the point.

Well, you aren't *exactly* claiming it. You described the terror of
being under incoming artillery without explaining that you'd never
actually been under any. Perhaps you should have ended that now famous
paragraph with "...or so I've been told".

Come to think of it, that spiffy illustration sort of parallels your
amateur radio experience, doesn't it?

How many minutes flying time were you from death by Soviet Bears were
you?

You mean the plane which did not even enter service until Len was long gone
from Japan?


Yep, that one. That was another which should have ended with, "or so
I've been told".


Not really. Nobody back then would have told him such stories.

Len wrote that it was about 500 miles from air bases in North Korea
and the USSR to where he was. Described it as about an hour flight
time. Mentioned the "Bear" specifically, which the Rooskies know as
the TU-95.

What wasn't mentioned was that the distances are actually over 660
miles. Also unmentioned was that the Bear/TU-95 didn't enter
production until 1956 and didn't enter service with the USSR's air
force until 1957.

All of this was pointed out in a post:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...&output=gplain

which did not get a very nice reception from Len.

Mr. Burke also chimed in, describing the source of the distances as "a
gas station map" despite the fact that it was US Army issue, and used
in combat over Japan. (7th Air Force, B-24 navigator's map - I have a
few of them).

Len don't know but he's been told
Ten-Tec gear is made of gold
If he tempts the Russian bear
He'll have to change his underwear

Doesn't matter if it's made by Ten Tec, Yaesu, Icom, Elecraft, or even
Southgate Radio, if it's used for Morse Code operation on the ham
bands, you can bet Len will make fun of it.

So predictable.

73 de Jim, N2EY