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Old September 23rd 04, 06:47 AM
Steve Robeson, K4CAP
 
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(Len Over 21) wrote in message ...
In article , Mike Coslo writes:


The problem here, Mike, is that on more than one occassion Lennie HAS
demanded certain actions (or cessation of actions) from various persons.


Oh yes! Interesting that he is the one to prove his own point. I
probably should have put a smiley after that.


Tsk. Hypocrites seem to forget that others see their hypocrisy,
don't need the "smiley" emoticon since they are laughing at the
absurdity of it all.


There's nothing funny about anything you post, Lennie.

You are mistruthful.

You are deceitful.

You are arrogant.

You are misguided.

He didn't get his way, of course, but he does take liberties with the

very
same "rules" he would impose on others...


I have noticed that. There is a certain type that accuses others of
what they are trying to do themselves. He used to accuse me of trying to
be the moderator, and yet becomes very agitated when someone posts
something he disagrees with. Eventually it becomes a tip-off to the
person's motives.


My "motive" in here is to advocate the removal of the code test for
any radio operator license.

If you must question "motives," then question all those who demand
to keep the code test long after it has served any purpose.


It is only your OPINION that the Code test no longer serves any
purpose.

Morse Code continues to be a necessary and viable means of
AMATEUR RADIO communication.

I emphasize AMATEUR RADIO since you seem to continue to think
that we are discussing Military, PLMRS, broadcasting or Public Service
programs.

I wish he'd slack off on the Morse code and give us more of the stories


with the historical aspect.


"You can't handle the truth!" - Col. Jessup (before being arrested)


You're the one with the truth problems, Lennie.

The U.S. government hasn't "slacked off" on morse code testing since
WRC-03. Test Element 1 is still a test requirement.


It's being dealt with.

My last "operating involvement" with HF radio came earlier this year.

I used a small (some say "tiny") 20 W SSB HF transceiver that
many radio amateurs have purchased for themselves. I was not
operating in any amateur bands.


Absolutely correct. You were NOT operating in the Amateur Radio
service.

Radio amateurs whose only exposure to "radio" is in amateurdom
will want to ridicule and denigrate non-amateur radio operation. That's
a psychological survival trait to overcome their own ignorance and
lack of experience.


A lie. Period.

Like MOST of his stuff, it's tired, dated and for the most part, not

true.
But it makes him happy to wave it.


Tsk. An illustration of my point by another...


It's dated, Lennie.

Except for some "10-4 Good Buddy" exchanges and using a
ship-to-shore radio which did not require any operator licensure, you
ahve ZERO experience in AMATUER RADIO communications or applications.

I wouldn't mind actually hearing more details of that time, without the


to me strange comparisons to Morse code users of today. I've read parts
of his experience, but I imagine there are interesting details.


In this environment such is wasted effort.

There is a considerable body of knowledge and history compiled about
all of radio. Very little of it concerns amateur radio, which makes some
of the amateur radio lifestylers very angry. Those lifestylers were never
in that part of the radio world and want to shut their eyes and ears to it.


No, Lennie, we don't shut our eyes to it.

Your stories of ADA were interesting the first time around.

It was sometime between the 85th to 90th time we heard them and
why those 1950's era "experiences" somehow qualified you to render
opinions on 21st century AMATEUR RADIO that they became dreary and
laborious.

Also, your lame attempts to glorify YOUR rear area support duties
by association with Soldiers who were KIA three years before you had
even enlisted made the rest of the tale pretty weak.

Kinda makes you think that is about all they have to offer.


PCTA extras can only offer braggadoccio about their "operating
skills" and their disgust at those who don't venerate them.


No one has to "venerate" them, Lennie.

The "disgust" is yuors...for all the 675K+ people in the United
States, children included, who can legally operate a radio station
while you can't.

Seriously, has Lenover21 or William ever called anyone in here names,
or made derogatory "baby talk" or whatever kind of talk it is; or
otherwise denigrated others?

Oh..... yes.......I guess they have...


Only after prolonged exposure to those who yell and yell against
all those who don't agree with them.


Leonard, Leonard, Leonard.

Please stop it.

Yours and mine little tit-for-tat only occured after you spent a
great deal of time calling me a Nazi, elitist, jack booted thug, etc.

You only perpetuate your reputation as a pathological liar when
you try to pass this off on others.

Unfortunately, the PCTA extras in here are so thin-skinned they
cannot abide opposition of the slightest kind. Their problem.


YOUR problem.

We won't let you liberally lie, deceive and otherwise treat with
disdain something we know better about without retort.

The question (in my opinion) that should be surfacing is: Why is
there such a prolonged talk about "how good and noble" are the
PCTA extras and "how band and wrong" are the NCTA?


That's only "the question" as it pertains to you.

The rest of us have more or less moved on.

You keep trying to make an issue of a NON-issue.

Time marches on, but few march to the beat of the CQ in morse
these days. The morse code test has long since outlived its
usefulness. There is NO validity in keeping it around just because
some middle-aged wannabes had to do it over 30 years ago. None
at all.


There are numerous reasons.

Keeping you out of Amateur Radio being number 1 on the list.

Putz.

Steve, K4YZ