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Old October 2nd 04, 05:10 AM
Dave Heil
 
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Len Over 21 wrote:

In article , PAMNO
(N2EY) writes:

In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,

(N2EY) writes:


Try the inside of a vehicle when the outside air is 116 F (47 C) that
has been closed and sitting in the sun to add 40 C more to the
ambient.


Around here, we generally settle for the decidedly low tech method of
rolling down the windows.


Let's take a look at those phrases:

Yes. Go over and over and over and over and over and over them
until you tire out the opposition to your golden words of truth and
beauty (which are never ever wrong). :-)

Let's at least go over them enough times that everyone except you
realizes your errors.

LHA: "All those subbands are simply for "staking out territory." "

That's my opinion and I'm holding to that.

You're simply wrong. Then again, you aren't a ham so perhaps you could
be excused for not knowing. Now that you've been advised, I'd expect
that you'd be sharp enough to keep from sticking with the same erroneous
view.


A person can hold any opinion they want. Len's stated opinion in this area is
not based on fact.


WRONG. INCORRECT. My opinions are based on FACTUAL
evidence of over a half century of observation.


My, my. You seem to want it both ways. Just a few posts ago, they were
just opinions when I wrote that you presented something as fact. Now
they are opinions based on FACTUAL evidence of over a half century of
observation.

In that case, your facts and your opinions on synthesizer spurs and
phase noise are wrong.

If you don't like it, TS.


"Civil discourse" from Len...


If you don't like that remark, then more TS. I have a sharp TS punch
and will be glad to mark your TS card anytime.


More civil "discoarse".

Does that mean you'll cling to a position no matter how wrong you are?


Isn't that obvious?


Tsk. You guys are a couple of Clingons, bravely regressing to
early pioneer days when Kode was King...because that's all
any ham could come up with on a $100 "recycled parts" budget.


You didn't answer the question posed to you.

Note that Len simply attacks an opposing opinion without any facts to
substantiate his attack.


WRONG. INCORRECT. My opinions are based on FACTUAL
evidence of over a half century of observation.


My, my. You seem to want it both ways. Just a few posts ago, they were
just opinions when I wrote that you presented something as fact. Now
they are opinions based on FACTUAL evidence of over a half century of
observation.

In that case, your facts and your opinions on synthesizer spurs and
phase noise are wrong.


Since when did you two Clingons become sole arbiter and judge of
what is "fact?"



Your view then is that there is no correct or incorrect, no right or
wrong and that there is no invalid opinion?

Is this part of the civil discoarse lesson? Should I be taking notes?

Repeatedly proven to be incorrect, in error, and without any basis in
fact. Hams then and now are able to stay within their bands and
subbands without any need for "modern frequency synthesizers".

Oooooooo! "repeatedly 'proven' to be incorrect, in error and without
any basis in fact! Ooooooo. Tsk, tsk. :-)

An "Ooooooo" and a "Tsk, tsk" aren't much of a defense, are they?


Nope.


Defense? Hardly. Those are just little onomotopoetic phrases to
keep from breaking out in nursie yell-yells maniacal laughter at
the sobresides damning of NCTAs by you two Clingons. Hi hi )as
the emotionless hams do).


That's what I thought of your comments, Len--hardly a defense. You've
been proven wrong. Evidence was presented to you. Your response:

"Ooooooo" and "Task, tsk".

Tsk. You've yet to explain that "Southgate Type 7." [other than the
unusual name] Does it appear in ham literature? In Nobel archives?

The name "Southgate" has certainly appeared in ham literature.


Indeed.


Then it should be in the ARRL Museum, yes?


Should be and might be.

Famous "names" need enshrining in the lore and mythos of the
pioneer days in radio...


It is enshrined, Len. Don't let it worry you that you don't know what
it means.

Just my particular brand of fun in ham radio.

Trying always to be the Superior in anything is fun for the ego-
driven. Lots of PCTA extras in here (practically all of them) get
their jollies that way.

Only you can read "just my way particular brand of fun in ham radio" and
take it as a statement of ego-driven superiority.


What's wrong with any of that?

Nothing "wrong" with that other than taking over the flow of debate
with your pet fun-and-games and promoting morse well over and
above any valid reasons for keeping the morse code test.


The Morse Code test was not mentioned at all, but Len cannot see any other
issue.


Hello? The message thread title is "US Lincensing Restructuring ???
When ???" At stake are some 18 petitions sitting at the FCC waiting
for someone there to put together an NPRM. Most of those petitions
involve the retention or elimination of the morse code test.

Jimmie and Davie (those 'sweethearts') feel that folks in here must
talk ONLY about the subjects THEY approve of?


I've already asked you once, would you like me to google up the last
time you made a comment which dealt with US licensing restructuring in
this thread?

...as compared to your attempting to take over the flow of debate with
your pet fun and games and promoting the abolition of morse code testing
in an endeaver in which you play no part?

But, you consider yourself Superior and therefore "must" triumph
in all things. :-)

Don't you mean "but you've proven me wrong and I just can't abide that"?

bingo!


Tsk...I've not "been proven wrong," just issued the usual baseless
non-facts by PCTA determined to damn every NCTA they can
find.


Balderdash, Leonard. You have indeed been proven wrong by very real
facts, supplemented with several urls where those facts might be
verified.
You're beginning to look very, very silly.


Len walked into a radio store once upon a time and the salespeople couldn't
explain some technical point to his satisfaction. Some of those salespeople
held the Extra class license. Len's conclusion is that people who hold an
Extra class license don't know how radios work.


Poor baby, still feel hurt at not being "respected" for that vaunted
extra class status?


None of your conclusions have hit the mark lately.

I was NOT thinking what you imagined. I was thinking that a sales
outlet that didn't know about its product nor could offer to help
potential customers find out, wasn't a very good business. To this
day I won't look to HRO for "technical answers."


....and I'll bet those guys at HRO are all shook up about it.

"My sales are way down. I wish that nice Mister Anderson would come in
and buy a replacement for the Icom R-70. Twenty years is a long time to
hold a grudge."

Dave K8MN