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Old October 4th 04, 03:11 AM
Mike Coslo
 
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N2EY wrote:
In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:


It seems to me that the only thing which would please Len would be for us to
change to NCTA opinions and respond to Steve the same way he does. In other
words, it's OK to behave like Len if and only if you agree with all of his
opinions.


PCTA extra Double Standard: It's okay to treat NCTAs like dirt,
smutz, river bottom slime, etc., because the PCTA think they
deserve it.



Have I ever "treat[ed] NCTAs like dirt, smutz, river bottom slime, etc."?

If so, how?


Not on my watch you haven't.


Perhaps Len just wants all opposing opinions squelched.


No "perhaps," "sweetums" (a Kellie-ism).



In other words: "Yes, Len wants all opposing opinions squelched."


Several in here have stated publicly, "be quiet and take the damn
test!" That's rather close to being told "shut up" to ordinary folk.



Who wrote that to you, Len? When did they do it?

Did Dave Heil, K8MN, ever write that to you?

Len seems to think that if one person tells him to "shut up", it somehow
justifies him telling someone else to "shut up".

That's faulty logic on Len's part.

PCTA extra Double Standard does not recognize such things as
nasty.



I think it's nasty for anyone to tell another to shut up online. I've never
done that. You have, Len.


They can say it but no NCTA can. :-)


Do you think it's funny?

Now - did the US Army not use any morse code after 1952?
How about the US Navy? COast Guard? Air Force? Marines?

Of course they did.


And Jimmie and Mikey were THERE to prove it! [gotta love it]


What? Sorry, but I wan't anything at that point in time.

Hey! What did I just get draggd into, anyway? I don't ercall posting
anything on what the Army and Navy were using in the olde days!


Tsk. Jimmie and Mikey ought to look beyond the ARRL
phrases and ask the military what is actually used. One on-line
source is the USAF's free download "From Flares to Satellites,"
available at the USAF Communications Command website. An
informative small book.


Thanks for the info. I'll check it out.

I've mentioned that before in here. Matters not to Jimmie and
Mikey because they WERE THERE and KNOW? Riiiight...in
their dreams they were...


I really don't understand why Lenover21 thinks I think I was there.

I've pointed out all sorts of references and sources of information
for quite a while in here on the REST of the radio world and what
is used there...but "that does not apply." The PCTA still think
that morsemanship is a required skill in the U.S. military and that
radiotelegraphers are "still needed!"


Where have I ever written that, Len?


I haven't written that, and I don't think I even think that.... if I
*were* to even think about it. I think.

Has someone in here been posting things under my name?

Was there Morse Code in use by the US military after 1952 or not?


Now that I do know. Yes it was. A colleague worked with it during the
early 70's.

But! What does all this military stuff have to do with Ham radio. We
are not military.

Perhaps Len wants *all* amateur radio tests eliminated.

I am beginning to suspect that may be the case..

Me too. Make amateur radio just like cb. No legal homebrewing, no tests, no
Morse code at all.


Tsk. ERROR. WRONG. INCORRECT.



"That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it."

I've advocated TOUGHER written tests for U.S. amateur radio,
never total elimination of the written test. That's in Google.



Where? I don't ever recall reading that from you at all.

Was it in any of your many comments to FCC?

I haven't mentioned that in the last few years because there's too
much ignorance of both theory and regulations on the part of those
self-righteous PCTA.



I don't think so. You've never spared the verbiage here.


Do you think Len ever bought a new teleprinter for hobby use with his
own money?

snort!

but that's what he suggests we hams do!


I've never suggested that.



Yes, you have.



Note that Len never says what he wants something to be, only what it should
not
be. Except for his never-retracted demand that FCC enact an age requirement
of
14 years for any class of ham license.


You forgot to add "...and therefore Len should be barred forever from
saying anything about anybody under penalty of law!" [do not remove
that tag]



No, I didn't forget to add anything, Len. I don't want to silence anyone, nor
deny anyone's free speech rights.


I don't mind Lenover21's posting here at all.

Sometimes maybe people can mistake disagreement with suppression.


I've never told anyone online to shut up.

You have.



"Do as Len says, not as Len does"



Not conducive to a hobby activity. More conducive to a dictatorship.

Like telling people to shut up...


"Shut up, just take the damn test!" (from others to me...)



Who wrote that to you, Len? When did they do it?


I never saw that! I do recall a post where someone said something about
Lenover21 taking a test, but don't recall any of what is in qoutes.

Did Dave Heil, K8MN, ever write that to you?

Len seems to think that if one person tells him to "shut up", it somehow
justifies him telling someone else to "shut up".


My folks taught me better.

That's faulty logic on Len's part.


I say, "Speak up Lenover21!" Don't allow people to squelch you!

- Mike KB3EIA -