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Old October 5th 04, 01:24 PM
Steve Robeson K4CAP
 
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Subject: US Licensing Restructuring ??? When ???
From: PAMNO (N2EY)
Date: 10/5/2004 6:28 AM Central Standard Time
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In article , Dave Heil
writes:

Len Over 21 wrote:
In article ,


Why are you so focussed on all MUST have a ham license to
discuss anything in here?


Where did I say that?


Lennie's typo notwithstanding, you didn't.

Just one of Lennie's SOP's (Situationally Obnoxious Posting). Keeps
reciting the same unfounded, baseless rant over and over again.

What Lennie HAS been told is that perhaps if he got an Amateur Radio
license and PARTICIPATED in Amateur Radio, he would actually understand it and
be able to discuss it from an INFORMED position.

Anyone can discuss here. I have seen no postings where somebody has told Len
to
"shut up", even though he has told others to "shut the hell up".


It's that "anger" thing he keeps accusing me and others of. "Shut the
hell up" is a very angry, antagonistic way of trying to brow-beat another.

Credibility is another issue.


Again...perhasp if he could actually discuss matters from an informed,
experienced positon...As it stands, he has zero-point-zero minutes of practical
Amateur Radio experience.

You've discussed. You just have no experience in amateur radio, no
stake in amateur radio and no credibility in amateur radio. You needn't
have an amateur radio license at all. Does that clear things up for you?


I don't think Len understands.


How can he?

He and Brain have thier respective heads up each others backsides so far
that neither can see a thing, and what they can hear is muffled and distorted.

More tsk. My choice of residence location is NOT primarily
motivated by any slavering desire to erect a radio station of
any kind.


Great. It looks like you've got your wish.


Ahhhhhh! But he CAN report to us on the VHF navaids from LAX! Oh joy!

Of course any of us with more than a month or two's experience in Amateur
Radio can attest to the fact that respectable signals can be radiated from and
received by antennas that no one can see.

Having once resided in SoCal antenna controlled neighborhoods myself I can
attest to the fact that a wire around the eaves and fed by a decent roller
tuner and worked against a good ground can work pretty well.

To each his own. But from descriptions and mapquest, it appears that Len's
choice was a particularly poor one for HF radio operations.

My Cincinnati home was
somewhat motivated by a desire for a good radio location. My present
home was selected in large part by a desire for a great radio location
with few neighbors. In addition, I have dark skies, a view to die for
and quiet which city and suburban dwellers don't even notice they don't
have.


Some of us notice.


Last vacuum tube receiver I DESIGNED and built was in 1964-1965.


Did you do that at work or as a "hobby" project?


I'm still waiting for Lennie to regale us with what RF devices our lives
can't do without that he allegedly had a hand in creating.

HF. Wasn't for listening to on-off keyed radiotelegraphy! [horrors!]


Description? Pictures? Performance?


None.

Just like his Padawamn Learner's T5 logs.

Terrible thing! NOT A LICENSED AMATEUR DESIGNING AND
BUILDING AN HF RADIO! Call out the radio police!


And how many HF receivers have you designed and built as a "hobby" in the
intervening ~40 years?


None. Last time he dared to venture a discussion on any kind of direct
participation in radio as a hobby, he had a(n) (alleged) ricebox lineup
including an ICOM R-70.

When I asked Len for help in designing an HF station, all he could offer was
to
point me to the Digi-Key catalog. That explained a lot, actually, because it
told me that Len doesn't really know how to do home design and construction
of
radios. Nor how to be creative in the use of available components rather than
just what's in the catalogs.

That's not a put-down, just a fact. While Len talks a lot of theory, and what
he did as a "professional" way back when, home construction of HF receivers,
transmitters and transceivers just isn't his thing. Look at his articles in
'ham radio' - none of them are radio construction articles.


Lennie's "contribution" to radio was getting coffee for and staying out of
the way of the REAL radio professionals as they did REAL engineering and design
work.

73

Steve, K4YZ