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Old October 13th 04, 02:54 PM
Steve Robeson K4CAP
 
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Subject: K1MAN is nothing but a QRMer
From: "Dee D. Flint"
Date: 10/12/2004 10:12 AM Central Standard Time
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As for the BARF.....the answer is simple, about 70 licensed

amateurs
joined
it. All of which were either braindead, or stupid. Perhaps both.

Dan/W4NTI

Were the barf members CW tested?

As in front of the FCC? Most certainly. I never said being CW tested

makes
you have any sense.

Dan/W4NTI


I haven't seen any evidence of it either. But that used to be one of
the battle-cries for the PCTA.

bb


It was never a "battle cry". Instead it was an observation of human nature.


And it's not just Amateur Radio.

I'd like for Brain and others to name ANYthing that, by being made
"easier" to obtain, made it "better", other than healthcare and a good meal.

An education?? A Mercedes Benz?? A seat on the board of a Fortune 500
company?

The more work that a person has put in to obtain something, the less likely
that they will act in a manner to jeopardize it. It was not touted as a
guarantee that someone would not misbehave but that it would keep the number
who did smaller than it would otherwise be. There is not, never has been
and never will be a panacea that will prevent all misbehavior. This too is
human behavior. Some will flout standards and rules just to show that they
can or because they have no sense or because they don't know any better or
any other number of reasons.


Absolutely.

The best that we can do is to make the amount of effort to obtain a license
reasonably high so that fewer people are willing to risk losing it.


In this I disagree, Dee...The degree of difficulty should be "high" so as
to meet the intent of 97.1, the Basis and Purpose of the Amateur Radio Service,
and that is to ensure technical and operational comptencies of the licensee.

Part of 97.1 is to create a pool of self trained operators and persons
knowldegeable in the radio arts. That license structure should be established
in such a way that greater knowldege and skill grants ever-expanding
privildege.

And before "someone" jumps on "skill" as meaning just Morse Code
proficiency, I think that there should be a requirement to show actual
participation in Amateur Radio much that same as it was once required before
one could apply for the Extra.

I don't have a "plan" for such a requirement, but I would imagine it would
include demonstrated competencies in operational skills and validation of
learned knowledge. Of course that would mean a testing cirteria that didn't
give you the answers before you took the test.

As a
partner to this, the enforcement and penalties need to be reasonably high so
that fewer people will risk that in addition to losing their license.


Absolutely again.

73

Steve, K4YZ