Subject: US Licensing Restructuring ??? When ???
From: PAMNO (N2EY)
Date: 10/14/2004 10:55 AM Central Standard Time
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In article ,
(Len Over 21) writes:

Rationalization for being ultra-cheap...or terribly strapped for
available
cash even though working as an electronics engineer (implied) for
money. Tsk.

Not at all. The Yankee word for it is "frugal".

Why should I spend more money on a transceiver that does not meet my
requirements when I can build one for less money that does?

Why should I accept the manufacturer's idea of what is "attractive" rather
than
my own?

Why should I accept *your* idea of what is "attractive" rather than my own?

You seem to be saying that amateur radio must be limited to only those who
are
willing to spend the money for "ready-built" equipment that meets your
approval. Even though you are not a radio amateur and never have been. Very
illogical.

Not at all, Jim.

Lennie's one and only reason for being a "radio professional" was to MAKE
MONEY from the radio industry.

As long as Amateurs continue to show the resolve and initiative to either
participate in radio design and engineering and/or build thier own gear, even
if in the form of a kit, then "radio professionals" such as he (still gives me
a snicker!) will still have to hang out at the union hall looking for work.

Not me. "Kluge' is a familiar term in aerospace. Too bad you never
worked in that...

Too bad Lennie never did, either.

Why would I want to?

Exactly.

Decals for radio markings have been around for a half century...

So what? I don't think the use of decals would make the Type 7
attractive to you.

Tsk. Still smarting from the lack of appreciation of your personal
hobby stuff?

Nope. You behaved exactly as predicted.

As if a crystal ball was required? Madam Cleo could see THAT one coming!

SHOW WORK! MAKE WEB PAGES FOR DISPLAY!

Why all the shouting?

I bet we won't see Brain jump in calling Lennie "Yell DMC".

"Proof" is in the web pages! If it doesn't exist, then everyone
"lies." :-)

Nothing worth showing, huh? That means you're all talk and no action, Len.
All
show and no go. Vaporware.

WE have had pictures of our various stations. Lennie can't even show us a
clipping from a catolog of what he CLAIMS to have up and running.

DOS tip, Len: AOL gives you a free home page with each screen name.
You can have up to seven! Plus they provide easy-to-use software to
help you set them up. Even I managed to get two of them done in a
short time. (Yes, there's another...)

Tsk. The limit is 2 MB per name. Good for some snapshots,
little more. :-)

They don't have to be high resolution. One would think an old-time
modem-communicator like you could do a lot with 14 MB. But so far nothing.
Nada. Zip. Zero. All talk and no action. All show and no go. Vaporware.

My QRZ site was a pic of my station when I was on Cagle Mountain.

And the AOL pages handle a heck of a lot more than "2MB". Anyone who has
looked through AOL pages know there are thousands upon thousands of pages that
have multiple pictures, graphics, and even "background music".

Yet our "resident radio professional" is already making excuses as to why
he can't make a single page AOL home page.

I am sure there are hundreds of pre-teens and middle school kids falling
off thier chiars in laughter right now! ! ! !

Some of them Amateur Generals and Extras, no doubt!

So *show us* what *you* could do in the home workshop, using only your
own resources.

Geez...all but baring your teeth in a snarly challenge!

Not me. That would be you...

Only further prrof of my assertions of what a liar Lennie is...

He never was an engineer, probably a borderline technician, undoubtedly
skilled at nothing more than plagiarism.

Your response is as expected, Len. You don't have any homebrew HF radio
projects to show us. Not receivers, transmitters or transceivers anyway.
You'd
be at a loss to actually design and build one yourself, in your home
workshop,
on your own time, with only your own resources. You talk a lot about articles
written by others and technical details, but when it comes to designing and
building a complete radio.......

Nothing worth showing.

Nothing TO show, let alone "worth showing"...Not even a store-bought
SWL/Scanner installation.

But you didn't and I didn't remark on it. Yet you "know" I would
have said what you accuse me of doing...hi hi.

It's very clear that you are more interested in the superficial (appearance,
parts used, cost) rather than the significant (performance, reliability,
usable
features, unique methods) of homebrew radio equipment.

That was, of course, the fifth paragraph where Lennie tried to make an
issue of "know(ing) what (he'd) do".

I guess Lennie thinks we're not observant enough to have noted very
predictible and established patterns...

Tsk. Inferiority complex you have?

Nope. But you seem to have one. Somebody has a website that shows a homebrew
ham station, and you have to attack its appearance and the technology used,
even though you know little or nothing about it.

But you KNEW how he'd react, Jim.

WHY do you respond to his stuff, anyway...?!?! (Where have I heard THAT
before...?!?!)

Tsk. That's a hypocritical statement in here!

How? By whom?

Yourself...a PCTA extra with the Double Standard.

Explain - if you can.

Meanwhile, readers may note that you talk of "homebrewing" and "technical
subjects", but have nothing to show that isn't work-related except perhaps
having purchased a ready-built receiver 20+ years ago. For "CASH"...

It may also be noted that while you talk about only being against the Morse
Code test (not use), and being in favor of hams doing technical stuff, that
talk rapidly turns negative and critical when someone actually does such
things.

Of course, Jim!

But don't let Brain see you actually using Lennie's own words against him!
Only those of us that he calls "PCTA" have a "double standard"!

WE do what we do for FUN!

Also service to our country.

BWAHAHAHAHAAHHHAAAAA....!!!!

Engaging in a part-time HOBBY is a "service to the country?"

Sure.

It would be great if it were a full time pursuit...

If only it could.

Of course Lennie could ask the same question of members of the USAF
Auxiliary (Civil Air Patrol), the USCG Auxiliary, the American Red Cross, the
Salvation Army, The Boy Scouts, the Girl Socuts, the American Heart
Association, etc etc etc...

Each of those organizations and programs are almost 100% volunteers
(notice I said ALMOST...) For many of those folks, it's "just a hobby".

Dare we say that any one of those organizations provides a "service to the
country"...?

Amateur Radio DEFINATELY does. It's been documented in the Federal
Register as such.

Nonsense. Particularly from someone who NEVER served in
the military.

You seem to think that "the military" is the only way to be of service to our
country. You're wrong about that.

Of course he is.

Your mindset is so engrossed in amateur radio as your raison
d'etre that you've slipped over the edge of reality into fantasy.

Not me, Len. Amateur radio is just one of many things I do, and have done for
a
long time. In fact, it was 37 years ago today (October 14, 1967) that my
Novice
license arrived in the mail from the FCC. 37 years of great fun, learning,
making friends all over the world, designing, building and operating rigs of
many types.

If anyone has a "mindset is so engrossed in amateur radio as your raison
d'etre that you've slipped over the edge of reality into fantasy", it would
be
*you*. Len. You're not a ham, have never been one, have no apparent
intentions
to become one despite that "out of the box" claim of almost 5 years ago.

Yet you post here probably more than anyone else, clutter the ECFS with long
repetitious commentary on a single small facet of amateur radio testing, and
argue even with those who agree with you.

Very illogical.

Of course it is, Jim. You expect an idiot to be "logical"...?!?!

73

Steve, K4YZ