Gary, you can try 1/4-wave (about 125 ft), end-fed against ground. Simply
take the feedpoint as high as you can, run the wire as high as you can, then
run it around the outside of the back yard. It ain't perfect, but it is
simple and it does work...

73,
Mike KI6PR
El Rancho R.F., CA

"Gary Boyer" wrote
I am looking for suggestions on erecting a first time 160 meter
antenna..no,
I don't have and tower and no I don't have any antenna modeling
software....I am just interested in your thoughts....I have never been on
160 and would just like to try it....tnx...Gary..K8BY..Oh..I just live on
a
average size city lot....few trees....