Subject: Doing Battle? Can't Resist Posting?
From: (William)
Date: 10/18/2004 7:25 PM Central Standard Time
Message-id:
(N2EY) wrote in message
.com...
Even if the operator can type 120 WPM, if s/he can't be interrupted in
the
midst of the string and asked for a repeat, as a good QSK CW operator
can,
then
that error will exist until the end of the transmission and the error
resolved.
That's a side benefit.
Assuming both ops have QSK. And there's nothing inherently wrong with
asking for "all again after xxx." SOP if you know what I mean.
I dare say we know better than you do, Brain.
And if you ARE operating QSK, you don't have to ask "all after"...You can
stop them and get a "fill" right then and there.
(People who USE "QSK" know this...)
Here's the plain facts:
The speed and accuracy of *any* mode that requires a human operator is
highly dependent upon that operator's skill. Doesn't matter if it's
done with a key, keyboard or microphone. If you have 10 wpm Morse
operators, you have (at best) a 10 wpm system. If you have 10 wpm
teletypists, you have (at best) a 10 wpm system regardless of what the
maximum speed of the system is rated. Same for voice.
That's just common sense.
But you chose to imply that the CW op was somehow better than rtty for
throughput. And you got called on it.
"...got called on it"...?!?!
In some circumstances CW WILL get through and with greater accuracy than
RTTY.
This has already been demonstrated.
The use of prerecorded storage can speed things up somewhat if, say, a
10 wpm teletypist is punching tape while receiving. But that takes the
systems out of real-time communications. One could prerecord Morse and
transmit it at high speed, as was done over 60 years ago, just as
well.
Unless you have an Extra Class operator who vows to do his best to
make machine copy impossible. Ever heard of such stupidity?
Only from somone stupid enough to make the suggestion.
Ooooooooooooooooooppps! That was YOU, Brain! 'Magine that!
The basic fact is that Morse code is *not* the slowest mode available
to hams.
It is among the very slowest, all else being equal.
What do YOU know about "being equal"...?!?!
A good CW net can clear 10-15 messages while the SSB net is still in roll
call.
I know...I've been there.
Assuming the interruption it to tell the transmitting station that
it's
ALL garbled, your 60-100WPM teletype just became zero.
Yup.
Ditto W0EX sent cw.
Various forms of error detection and correction, checksums, ACK/NAK
and other methods can do a lot of that stuff automatically. At a cost
in speed, of course.
But that's not really the issue.
Never is. CW is better than everything else. That is the issue.
That's the "issue" only to you and Lennie.
The rest of us with some practical experience in such issues KNOW better.
A bridge out in the middle of the Autobahn means everyone goes zero
until
the bridge is replaced regardless of what the thoroughfare will otherwise
allow. Same thing.
Exactly!
Ever heard of changing bands, or relaying?
OK.
You're taking traffic from someone on 40 meter RTTY. The band sucks.
You just missed practically everything he sent. He finally QRT's.
How are you going to tell him to QSY if RTTY isn't working? Use an even
WIDER bandwidth mode on a band that's already crappy?
Or:
The bridge is down to one lane in each direction, and the speed limit
is such that only 1/10 as many cars/hour get through as would normally
be able to use the bridge. The effective capacity of the road is then
reduced to 1/10 of normal (between the exits before and after the
blockage).
73 de Jim, N2EY
The only blockage are the eyes rolled back Morse Code elitists.
The only "blockage" is in your lower bowel that allows all that BS to back
up to your eyes, Brain...You really are the epitome of "idiot".
Steve, K4YZ