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October 21st 04, 01:28 PM

(Steve Robeson K4CAP) wrote in message ...
Subject: operator's licence vs. station licence
From: (William)
Date: 10/20/2004 6:58 PM Central Standard Time
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(N2EY) wrote in message
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In article , Robert Casey
writes:

Ya think a spy would apply for a license in ANY radio service, Jim?

Depending on the situation, a ham license could be a good
"cover story" for a spy with transmitting equipment. The
FCC did shut down all ham bands during WW2...

During WW1, too. In fact, during WW1, all amateur radio equipment had to be
disabled - receiving as well as transmitting.

In 1940, more than a year before Pearl Harbor, all US hams were required to
either take a loyalty oath or turn in their licenses.

73 de Jim, N2EY

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From: N2EY )
Subject: Excellent ARRL proposal

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy
Date: 2004-01-25 12:31:04 PST

In article ,
(Brian Kelly) writes:

(N2EY) wrote in message
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In article ,

(Brian Kelly) writes:
go thru to get on the air. There were neighborhood radio clubs which
didn't allow full voting memberships to Novices and Techs . . .

And in the mid-60s there were still some who did similar things. Indeed,
there
were Advanceds who looked down on Generals, Generals who looked down on
Conditionals, Conditionals who looked down on Techs, and Techs who looked
down
on Novices. Etc.

And it wasn't just kids vs. adults, either.

Yessir, It's 2004 and it's **still** out there. Guy was up late last
year for the vote on approving his membership application into The
Group (the 43rd & Kingsessing "Group" we're both familair with yes?)

You mean the one where the attendance sheet looks like the DXCC Honor Roll?

and somebody asked "what license class does he have?" His sponser:
"Uhhh . . Advanced." Then he ducked. Immediate 180dBA noise level from
the Back Benchers, "what the hell is this guy's problem?"

Well, what IS his problem?

That group is heavily focused on DX and contesting - particularly DX
contesting.
They're "a bit competitive"....

Anything less than an Extra is a big competitive disadvantage in DX
contesting.
Like not being able to work split. So why doesn't the guy get one? Even if he
only works 'phone, all he need do is pass element 4. And he's had almost 4
years.

No, wait, that's not a good reason. Those writtens are really tough. More
than
4 years ago, (Jan 19, 2000, to be exact) a certain verbose nonham here said
he
was going for Extra "right out of the box". But no ham license of any class
yet.
And this nonham says he's a "radio PROFESSIONAL"....

Maybe he should apply to The Group. I'd like to attend that meeting....

Then as now, they were few - but noisy.

Maybe it was different where you were, Dan.

It's all just cycles Dan and the 1968 maneuver was not the first cycle
by any means and welcome to the current cycle. There will be others.

Circle Game.

Dit-dit!

73 de Jim, N2EY

I just KNOW there was a reason you posted the SAME post under two different
threads, but I'll be darned if I know what it is.

And I'm trying to figure out how some club meeting int the 1960's has
anything to do with what's going on today.

Some generic club, with generic members, making generic comments that may
or may not be germane.

Whew.

Steve, K4YZ

1. You are blind.

2. The club meeting was in 2003.

3. Kelly related the story for a reason.

4. Jim agreed with the "what IS his problem" remark.

5. Do your homework next time before shooting off your mouth.

6. Get back to me if you have something useful to add.