Subject: They just don't get it!
From: Dave Heil
Date: 11/9/2004 11:07 PM Central Standard Time
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Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,

Tsk. I was out there, not just "watching TV." Didn't see any "ham
emergency" crews at the disaster centers. Maybe they were all
home using CW on their rigs? [ "CW gets through when nothing else
will...even without electrical power!" ]

To make this clear for us, you were actually at the involved disaster
centers, Len? All of 'em? So you know for a fact that no radio
amateurs were involved in these earthquakes?

Then this would be yet another contradiction of Lennie's...Once upon a time
he owned up to having only "once" helped filling sandbags and some non-specific
"disaster".

For example, when the space shuttle burned up on reentry, there were
groups of
volunteers out looking for debris that survived the disaster. Some groups
had
communications provided by amateur radio, others depended on cell phones.

Riiiiight, Jimmie...ONLY hams were any aid, right? Nobody else could
do the job? :-)

You didn't really address what was stated, did you?

I guess he missed the part where Jim said "some"...

Civil Air Patrol was tasked for that mission. Over 400 responders in four
Wings, active on HF, VHF-FM and VHF-Airband.

They were being good citizens. All those hams got their licenses so
they
could later Hunt for Space Shuttle Debris?

There are plenty of good citizens. Not all of them are equipped to to
what radio amateurs did in this case. Why the dodge?

You need to ask, Dave?

Pretending that amateur radio is "vital" is a lot of POLITICAL
bull**** and you know it.

What does it take for something to be "vital", Len?

Constant reading and listening to the ARRL. :-)

Whatsa matter? You couldn't think of an answer?

Amateur Radio IS vital.

Numerous federal and civil disaster relief agencies have said so...in
public, in writing and in person.

Of course those agencies forgot to consult with Lennie the Licenseless
Loser before making those statements. Of course, if they had, they would have
only laughed themselves into a stroke at this allegedly "educated" idiot's
musings.

The ARRL propaganda is - consistently - the SAME. It also seems to be
ineffective OUTSIDE of amateur radio. ARRL is constantly doing SELF-
PROMOTION and the government can see that as easily as anyone not in
amateur radio. ARRL has apparently begun to Believe itself in all that
propaganda and self-glorification.

ARRL just hasn't gotten into mainstream media with any of that noble and
glorious "technical innovation, education, emergency communications,"
let
alone the "recreation" part. The "public service" part is notably
lacking,
everywhere but at the ARRL and its output.

That's quite a rant, Leonard. There's a running QST item most months
which is called "Media Hits". What kind of items do you think it
highlights?

Amateur Radio was recently front page news and opening line teasers on all
local TV outlets after an ARISS mission with a local school was completed.

Just to name a few...(and a few more reasons that prove what a lying idiot
Leonard H. Anderson is...)

73

Steve, K4YZ