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Len Over 21 wrote:
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(Len Over 21) writes:
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(Brian Kelly) writes:
(Len Over 21) wrote in message
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The parks argument is a good one. The spectum is a natural resource
like
the forest and the shoreline, and like those it shouldn't be for
business
use only.
Thank you for saying that, Alun. Sincere thanks.
About six years ago (or so) in here I tried to point out that there
is
a
good analogue between the hobby of amateur radio and the national
park service. The U.S. Park Service has a million acres (give or
take)
which is reserved for ALL the citizenry to enjoy for their
recreation.
You did?
Google up the post for us, please, Len. Your experience in computer-modem
communications should make that an easy task for you.
Old-maid Jim is still into Googling bullemia syndrome, still trying to
argue old, old postings all over again. And again. And again. :-)
It is "bulimia", Len. Master the word and make it your own. :-)
I'd say Jim has done a fair job of it. You've been caught with your
pants down, old boy.
Spare me . . . more snake oil . . one more of your bogus "claims to
fame" eh Sweetums?
Tsk. I don't "claim any fame" to that analogue.
Then why did you mention it, Len?
Tsk. All WRONG again, Jimmie? :-)
Kellie brought up "claim to fame." I just repudiated it.
...but not successfully.
All you want to do is re-argue the PAST. :-)
And all you want to do is tap dance out of this mess of your own
creation.
While I can still manage a time-step or two, this isn't a stage
and you are not the audience...but you are rather the usher
self-important and with a small flashlight, the one who keeps
getting gum on his shoe soles.
Face the music (even if you are deaf), amateur radio is basically
a HOBBY. There should be absolutely nothing wrong with that
concept.
What's "wrong" is when someone denies that there are any "nonhobby"
aspects to
amateur radio. Such as emergency and public service communications,
education,
advancing the state of the art, etc.
Of course...like "advancing the state of the art" in home building
all-tube rigs in the 1990s. :-)
You can't admit that a number of hams are involved in the public service
aspects of amateur radio?
NOT near enough to qualify for the self-glorifying political definitions
in Part 97...and certainly not from the implied greatness and nobility
written up by the league.
Three earthquakes, not just one. :-)
But it is a matter of public record that radio amateurs participated.
Names and calls have been published. How do you account for that?
ARRL does the "publishing." Mass media it is NOT.
Wire services have "published" all that? I think NOT. Broadcast
TV news "published" all that? I think NOT.
Being "published" in the weekly Podunk Hollow 6-pager might
satisfy legal necessities of "publishing" but the citizenry still
doesn't know about amateur radio in detail.
Tsk. I was out there, not just "watching TV." Didn't see any "ham
emergency" crews at the disaster centers. Maybe they were all
home using CW on their rigs? [ "CW gets through when nothing else
will...even without electrical power!" ]
To make this clear for us, you were actually at the involved disaster
centers, Len? All of 'em? So you know for a fact that no radio
amateurs were involved in these earthquakes?
I've been to more of them than you. :-)
Do I know "for a fact" there were no amateurs involved? No, because
I don't read QST to find out. I was THERE. Nobody wearing a ham
HT on their belt, nobody with a little callsign pin on, no mobiles
parked. Just the regular emergency workers plus the FEMA fly-away
terminal showing TV with notes posted from anxious relatives.
I've seen no government nor NASA reports stating, "No radio amateurs
were involved".
I've seen no government nor NASA reports stating, "Radio amateurs
were involved." If you've seen such a statement, provide the source
so that Newington can be better educated.
There are plenty of good citizens. Not all of them are equipped to to
what radio amateurs did in this case. Why the dodge?
"Dodge?" No Dodge, dude. Wife and I drive our Chevrolet.
Gosh, "Dave," I've seen no government nor NASA reports that
ONLY hams are "good citizens" or that they were "the only ones
equipped (with ham radio) to do the shuttle debris searching!
Was that in some sensitive (secret) government report that ONLY
ex-State people were cleared to read?
Pretending that amateur radio is "vital" is a lot of POLITICAL
bull**** and you know it.
What does it take for something to be "vital", Len?
Constant reading and listening to the ARRL. :-)
Whatsa matter? You couldn't think of an answer?
That WAS the ANSWER, "Dave." The league is constantly self-
glorifying itself and always depicts amateur radio as a vital necessity,
etc., etc., etc.
Kellie wanna practice mental bullemia and barf up old postings.
Len, one time is a mistake. The word is "bulimia".
"Dave," your word is BULL.
Tsk. You morsemen weren't able to successfully argue your cases
for anything in the past...now you disguise your later comments on
old things as some kind of "truth" of "new things?"
Keep tap dancing, Len.
Tsk. Got rid of my Haney Plates years ago.
"Dave," you are still behaving as the prussian schoolmaster wanting
to humiliate his "students.' You are neither schoolmaster nor
"expert" but your attitude is superbly prussian. [but with a lower
case undeserving of capitalization]
That's NOT "weaseling out." That's just plain nuts, morseman.
You just can't bring yourself to admit that the idea belonged to
another, can you?
I have plenty of analogues and admire those who are original, such
as the comparison of the park system to setting aside spectrum
for hobbyist activities.
YOU continually overlook the subject (the analogue) in a poor
effort to attempt humiliation and defamation of a single poster as
"your argument." That is faulty...but you seem to think you have
NO faults.
The volume of your material in an attempted defense of the indefensible,
says otherwise. You care.
Tsk. I can't possibly "care." You said (repeatedly) I am "not involved."
That's quite a rant, Leonard. There's a running QST item most months
which is called "Media Hits". What kind of items do you think it
highlights?
Some squib in the Podunk Valley Hollow weekly 6-pager?
A Mike Douglas TV show item? :-)
Sorry, but the ARRL has been ineffective on getting mass media
exposure to amateur radio for years...a whole half-century worth.
The best it can hope for in "media hits" is to have CQ quote from
the league website on something. All that stays INSIDE the ham
media, doesn't venture OUTSIDE to where the politicians and the
rest of the citizenry see news and events.
Some hams, like yourself, want to stay insular to keep your
brainwashing clean and intact with old ideas. That way you can
freely fantasize on how "vital, unique, and resourceful" you all
are (along with pipe dreams of heroism, saving the day, etc.) in
some weird rationalization of "justifying" your hobby. You DO do
that and get very angry when you don't get high-fives for your
fantasyworld accomplishments. Your worry, not mine. "I'm not
involved." :-)