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November 22nd 04, 04:14 AM

Steve Robeson K4YZ wrote:

Subject: Near Space Science - was They just don't get it
From: Mike Coslo
Date: 11/20/2004 7:19 PM Central Standard Time
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Len Over 21 wrote:

In article ,

(La Cucaracha) writes:

Len apparently has simply *refused* to even look at the information you
presented.

No way, he surfed 'em and you can bank it but he doesn't have the
gonads to 'fess up and admit he was wrong. As usual.

Nope. WRONG. ERROR.

Didn't need to surf some selected websites NOW.

Tsk. I'd already known of amateur BALLOONISTS who went
unmanned high-ballooning a decade ago.

So...where was I "wrong?"

La Cucaracha, you are way over your head on this...but then
that happens with regularity.

Mike Coslo claimed he could go to "100,000 feet altitude" or
near space" (as he states it) with "latex weather balloons."
I claim he can't do that...with those same "latex weather
balloons." Atmospheric density and pressure won't allow it and
those "latex weather balloons will burst below 50,000 feet.

Dave Mullenix of the EOSS group states:

* We use Totex weather balloons. They seem to be the best quality.
* We purchase them from:
*
* Kaymont Consolidated Industries, Inc.
* 21 Sprucetree Lane
* P.O. Box 348
* Huntington Station, NY 11746
* Phone (voice): 516 424-6459
* Phone (fax): 516 549-3076
*
* Balloons are sized by their weight in grams. Kaymont currently
* carries two sizes, 800 and 1200 grams. The 800 gram size will
* lift 3-4 lbs to 100,000 feet. The 1200 gram size will take a full
* six pound payload to 100,000 feet. Prices are about $45.00 each for
* the 1200 gram balloons. Kaymont accepts telephone orders and credit
cards.

End Dave Mullinex of EOSS quote

Kaymont has this to say about their Totex balloons:

* This balloon was developed in the 1940's and is made from a natural
*latex compound which is highly elastic and tear resistant. Physical
*properties are retained at extremely low temperatures and the latex
*compound contains additives which contribute to its resistance to
*oxidation and ozone. The robustness of the rubber film allows the fully
*inflated balloon to maintain its spherical shape making it particularly
*suitable for severe weather launches.

End Kaymont Quote

Latex balloons.
Helium.
100,000 feet with a six pound payload.

I can supply references upon request.

Why the difference between a manufacturer of the latex balloons, and a
documented user group, and your facts?

You should have bracketed thge word "facts", Mike.

As was made evident by his post, precious little of what Lennie presented
was fact...Or should I say CURRENT...???

The disparity occured because, once again, Lennie tried to interject his
decades old knowledge (in this case his few non-soloed hours as a student pilot
in 1950-something...) where common sense should have directed a more prudent
man to keep his mouth shut and not display such ignorance.

Leonard H. Anderson is an idiot. It really is THAT simple.

Well, he is certainly wrong in this case!

- Mike KB3EIA -