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Old November 24th 04, 03:31 AM
N2EY
 
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In article , Mike Coslo
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N2EY wrote:
In article ,
(Brian Kelly) writes:


(N2EY) wrote in message
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In article ,



(Brian Kelly) writes:



There isn't much real "engineering" in the hard numeric design sense
attached
to doing what KB3EIA proposes. It's like adding a room onto a house - you
wouldn't do a complete stress analysis of every stud and joist, nor a fluid
dynamic analysis of the plumbing just so you could have a half-bath on the
ground floor.


Bingo!

A lot of the job of getting that half-bath is permits, inspections, estimates,
coordinations, etc., too.

The topic is
how various folk who come from different educational, training and
employment backgrounds approach the technical aspects of pulling off
non-commercial stunts like sending homebrewed electronics packages to
100,000 feet with a balloon.


OK.


Seasoned technical types degreed and
otherwise learn out in the college of hard knocks how to plan and
execute projects in highly systematic manners because when money is
involved the project better be pulled off properly or yer outta work.


Which is not the same factor here.


In business if ya signed the contract to deliver X on date Y, you better do
it
or bad things will happen. In this balloon thing, a delay of weeks or
months is
no big deal if the result is success rather than failure.


That's the incentive. Beyond that we is what we is and we don't change
our stripes when we get involved in the planning of off-hours
volunteer efforts or our hobbies.


Maybe *you* don't.


People need to differentiate between work and play. Those who can't get
grumpy! ;^)


Yup. Particularly with volunteer labor: they can just tell you where to shove
the helium hose, and then they walk away. Few of us can do that in our work
life.

Wherein come the clashes with the
non-technical types we get involved with on joint efforts. Pick any
mid-to-large scale Field Day planning session around here for a
perfect example.


You might wanna look up how the CP folks did...


Send the non-technical types to me. I don't differentiate between them
and what is apparently the first class Hams. Perhaps they will learn,
and eventually become technical types.


The "CP folks" referred to were a classic case of nonplanners. There's a casual
approach and then there's carelessness. A few good folks did 90+% of the work
and the rest watched.

73 de Jim, N2EY