Lenof21 wrote:

In article . net, "Grümwîtch
thë Ünflãppåblê" writes:


"Lenof21" wrote in message
...

: The license holder isn't prohibited from doing anything after
: midnight of the last day of his/her 10-year-active-license period...and
: for two more years into that grace period.
:
Untrue. (Some would say an outright lie) They are certainly prohibited from
operating their amateur radio station without supervision, since they
possess no valid operator license.


Tsk. Ye of little faith. :-)

Now what did I write that was UNTRUE? Hmmm?

You wrote in an earlier message:

Lenof21 All licensees are perfectly legal to continue operating in
their grace
Lenof21 period. There is no necessity (nor sense) to eliminate those
in the
Lenof21 grace period from those in the normal 10-year license period from
Lenof21 any class totals.

Then you appear to have modified it to say:


"The license holder isn't prohibited from doing anything after
midnight of the last day of his/her 10-year-active-license period."

Was anything written about "operating an amateur radio station?"
No. :-)

Yes, because you wrote the above mentioned quote in an earlier message




They could have a valid commercial license and not be
prohibited from using that. Note: A commercial license does not
allow operation IN the amateur bands...just like an amateur license
does NOT allow operation outside of amateur bands.

So. They *are* prohibited from operating in the amateur bands. That is
significantly different than "not being prohibited from doing anything"


ALL of Title 47 C.F.R. applies to ALL USA citizens. Yes, that
includes amateur radio licensees. :-) In that you will find that, if
there is a REAL emergency situation, there is NO prohibition
against anyone using any frequency, any mode for help. True.
Ain't gonna be no Raddio Polizei saying "papers please" while
wearting leather topcoats and armbands in a REAL emergency.

Emergency comms is in another ongoing thread. Do you believe that we are
trying to argue that expired licensees can't use any frequencies during
an emergency? I don't recall anyone saying that.

Some argumentative amateur word-twister is going to pop in and
shout/holler "this is an amateur radio newsgroup!" Well, if so, why
is all the Chat Room nonsense going on between "regulars" in here
which is NOT about amateur radio? :-)

Hehe, Word twisting? Commercial licenses and Emergency operations
dictated by an expired license?


The rationalizations abound about that. Suddenly anyone with a
ham license can "justify" their Chat Room gabbling because they
once took a small test and got a certificate of "federal authority!"
Somehow I don't think the Chat Room regulars would accept an
FDA official talking about pork production...even though they would
have a real HAM license. :-)

I guess the "only ones who count" in here are the Regulars, the
life-stylers, those who eat-breathe-sleep amateur radio. They are
NEVER wrong. Their words are TRVTH itself, engraved in eternal
marble. Their shall be no discourse with them...of course.

In that you are incorrect. I don't mind having a good discussion, and
even enjoy a good argument. But I do expect a good argument with proper
give and take. Some times I am wrong, and some times right. But your
case would be better served if you were to simply admit your mistakes
and move on to good debate.

It's a religious thing. Something like "for the League, God, and Country"
(in that order).

"Once a ham, always a ham." [it's like the murine corpse]

Get with the program, Grum.

...or admit you've almost plagiarized Dr. Dobbs' good journal name.

Let's do good discussions with proper give and take. Anything else
risks irrelevancy.

- Mike KB3EIA -