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January 16th 05, 04:18 AM

wrote:

Mike Coslo wrote:

N2EY wrote:

In article ,

(Len Over 21) writes:

In article , "Kim"
writes:

Uh huh. I did ask. And, you came back with this argument
initially
that--paraphrasing--were you not entitled to your opinion. You
are entitled.

Incorrect. Brian Burke

N0IMD

was specifically talking about those in
here who belong to the "PCTA extra" persuasion and who
continually try to put those who are against the morse code test.

"continually try to put those who are against the morse code test"?

Put them where?

Those "PCTA extras"

Who are they, Len? Specifically? Use callsigns because names aren't

necessarily

unique.

Much easier to not put a name or face on the evil "PCTA Extras".
Makes it a lot easier to demonize them.

Very true, Mike.

But I think Len just doesn't like to use our callsigns.

Because I'm a PCTA Extra,(KB3EIA) and so are you,(N2EY) and so is
Dave,(K8MN) and Steve,(K4YZ) and Dan (W4NTI).

Now if THAT isn't a diverse group, I don't know what is. TRying to put
us all in one "Olde tyme Hammes" group is doomed to failure.

Fact is, of the Extras in here who are
PCTA, there are a lot of different personalities, from abrasive to
mild mannered.

Same goes for NCTAs.

For example, I've had many detailed discussions with K2UNK, yet there's
never a harsh word, even though we're poles apart on most amateur radio
policy issues. Heck, K2UNK is a *director* of NCI!

Yes, same here, although I believe I got him pretty irratated a few
times. THat's okay, because I'm an irratating person some times! 8^)

One cannot stereotype a spectrum easily.

That's why Len denies there is a spectrum. All are blamed for what
someone supposedly did decades ago.

Perhaps there was some sort of prenatal terror induced by a Ham?

persist in claiming turf on who should
direct EVERYTHING about U.S. amateur radio - including all
federal regulations thereof - just because of tenure as an
amateur or because they feel they "own" the hobby and are
somehow "entititled" to be of the noble calling of amateurism.

Where, specifically, has this been claimed? By whom?

Perhaps you and N0IMD have very thin skins...;-)

PCTA extras imply they are "superior" about everything and
are busy trying to shove out the NCTAs from this newsgroup.

Really? You're the only person here I've seen tell another to "shut
the hell up".

Let us not forget the recent offers for one poster to engage in
fornication with himself,

That was me. And it wasn't an offer, it was a command. ;-)

Isn't it okay to refuse an immoral command?? hehe ;^)

and for another to stick something up his "I/O
port". All in response to civil posts.

For Len, "civil" equals "agrees with Len". All else is uncivil.

My lack of civility must be distressing indeed.

You imply your own superiority in all things here ;-) ;-)

You are entitled to believe that the ground a military person
walks on is sacred and that no one else is "entitled" to the same
benefits
from the United States as a person who has served in the military.

You're also entitled to believe that the moon is made of cheese. Or
that the earth is flat.

Or that your lifelong avoidance of Morse Code has some relevance to
amateur radio policy.

You are off on your own fantasy there.

Naw, Len, she hit the nail really square.

Brian Burke served in the
USAF, overseas. I served in the US Army, also overseas, and
specifically in radio communications. It is safe to say that we
are both proud of serving our country.

As you should be. Others feel the same way about *their* military
service, too.

But is the military the only way a citizen can serve our country?

Or are there other ways? Does it have to be "overseas"?

There are other, direct ways of doing this.

What about indirect ways?

Sure, but I'm surprised that these good folk can't figure out other
direct ways that are not specifically serving in the military.

- Mike KB3EIA -