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Old September 6th 03, 04:55 AM
Frank Gilliland
 
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Yep. Post it.

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Sure,,,,,here we have N3CVJ not only intentionally, wanton, willful,
breaking of federal communication law as set forth and defined by the
FCC (shouldn't a hammie of his status know better?) but committing
behavior that is construed by many LEOs to be of pedophilia-like nature,
of which ALL experts believe there is NO cure, only a time span until
they approach another child.
I mean, Frankie,,you just claimed in another thread that there is NO
excuse for breaking the law pertaining to the airwaves....according to
Hall himself, you condone this type behavior he commits...hmmmm,,,but
you have a problem with DX and freebanding.LOL....your priorities are
whacked, Frankie, and I am certain beyond any doubt whatsoever, not one
person in this group would want either of you near any children.


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From: Dave Hall
Subject: WhAt FrEqUeNcEy DoEs A mObLiE pHoNe OpPeRaTe On? Date:
1999/12/16
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X-Trace: tw12.nn.bcandid.com 945352043 207.224.84.38 (Thu, 16 Dec 1999
06:47:23 MST) Organization: Spew Radio Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 06:47:23 MST Newsgroups:
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Who needs "Melrose Place" when you have a scanner? My neighborhood phone
traffic was no less juicy at times. Teenaged girls talking about their
first time with sex
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Hmmm.... seems that there is more to that


post than what you quoted... let's put


it in context by adding the rest of his post,


shall we?



Certainly. editing it for brevity doesn't alter his beahvior one bit,
nor his violation of the law.
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....., wife talking to newly found lover while
hubby watched Monday Night Football in the
next room, guys making drug buys, and even
caught one neighbor bitching about ME and all my "radio stuff" to
another.
It's fun to try to figure out who all those voices
belong to. Sometimes more entertaining than
TV, becasue it's REAL......
*
Dave
"Sandbagger"
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When not taken out of context,


Out of context? LOL...his statement admitting breaking federal
communication law stands alone.

Yes it does. You brag about breaking federal


communication law yourself.




I don't. That you misconstrue and misinterpret talking about skip and
freebanding as bragging is your problem.


You can play semantics with the verb all you want, the context is the same.

I guess that makes him no better than you,


huh?




See what type truth you are capable of when forced.


Except that what he did wasn't illegal, and what you do is. My question was
rhetorical, and you would have known that if you didn't have that communication
deficit.

So what are you complaining about?




LOL,,,,once again, replying to your directives and inquiries isn't
contrued as complaining except by those with deficits in communication..


Refocusing your tactics to dwell on semantics for a while, huh?

it doesn't sound like pedophilia to me


No surprise there. You two are quite alike.

Are you an expert on pedophiles?


I'm not the issue.


I didn't say you were. I asked a question. Are you an expert on pedophiles?

Or are you renewing your accusation that I'm


a child molester?


Poor Frankie..in such great agonizing pain..LOL..really pains you that
you have nothing to back you these days,,no posts, no headers, no
nothing. Just like KC8LDO forging me,,nothing in any archives, no
headers. Liars hang tough together.


Keep begging for them and I'll keep posting them:

http://www.aimcomm.net/sparky/twisted_forgeries.txt
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...yant.webtv.net

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or to any other reasonable person, which is


clearly why you have pulled it out of context


and interpreted it as such.


Feel free to ask anyone at all that you cite, or feel is "reasonable" if
they feel listening to minor children talk of their sexual liasons is
"juicy" let alone healthy, conducive behavior of one that continually
spoouts off about other folk's morals,,go on now, do as your told.

Since you have no brain,



Temper-temper, Frankie,,,,my brain is much more tangible than your
claims. Nevertheless, I am not the subject. Keep trying

I guess I have to do all the thinking around


here.


Internet Lawyering? Hoo-boy! (chuckle) I think not,,,,,

Did he say that he sat there and jacked off to


the conversation? No. All he said was that he


heard the conversation. He didn't even


describe the details of the conversation.






Sure he did. Your communication deficit prevents you from interpreting
it correctly.
Sex. Their first time. Children. What more do you want?


I suppose that in your socially isolated mind you might have conditioned
yourself to assume that such a conversation must be an explicit play-by-play,
and that it is either unlikely or absolutely impossible for it to consist of
anything else. But that raises suspicions about -your- behavior, not Hall's.

He didn't say if the girls were saying, "It was


SO big and hard, and it hurt so BAD", or if it


was more like, "...and when I woke him up he


copped an attitude, drove me home and didn't


even open my door! I don't think he respects


me AT ALL!"





No,,that's not in his post anywhere,,LOL.
In fact, he even claimed that listening to the children speak of their
first time of sex was "juicy".


Gossip is "juicy". Gossip is not necessarily pornographic or sexually explicit.
The word "juicy" implies pedophilia only in -your- mind, Twist.

He's a pervert, and so are you for
attempting to claim listening to children talk of sex on a private
telephone is somehow innocent.

Well, I grew up with two older sisters, and let


me tell you



No Frankie,,tell someone who cares what yout think about such matters.


Gee Twist, after all that whining about me snipping your posts, then you go and
snip mine, even after I made a point not to snip any more of yours? One would
think that your mind was closed to what I had to say, regardless of it's
validity or truth (your friend, remember?) But that's ok, Twisty, we all
understand that you just can't admit when you are wrong and will snip, lie,
obfuscate, distort, misquote and forge just to avoid admitting your mistakes.
But hey, that's our Twistedhed!!!

He also said that he heard other


conversations, such as people making a drug


deal.





He didn't say it was "juicy".


Read his post again, dimwit. He said, in a sentence that was both seperate and
prior to the list of conversations, that it was the "neighborhood phone traffic"
that was "juicy". Go read it yourself. Then go schedule an appointment with your
imaginary shrink to deal with your communication deficit.

Does that make him a drug addict? Of course


not, but according to your "logic" it does.



Not my logic, Frankie mah boy,,Davie's OWN logic. He is the one that
claimed that since I DX and freeband, it's a good chance I break other
laws pertaining to society.


He's absolutely right. Pick up any Psych 101 book and you will find a bunch of
references that support his statement -- i.e, your self-admitted ideals and
deliberate lawbreaking, when taken in context with your behavior and writings in
this newsgroup, is indicative of a major malfunction, something along the lines
of an antisocial, histrionic and/or narcissistic personality disorder. Take your
pick, because with any combination it's a fair bet that you can't restrain
yourself to the behavioral standards of the rest of society.

His hypocrisy bull**** is how this entire
matter with him began. Why didn't you shed some light on his bull****
when he said it instead of waiting until I used his logic?


Because it wasn't his logic that equated his observations with such a gross and
perverted social deviation. The only person that still accuses people of
pedophilia in this newsgroup is you, Twist. I think you need to see a REAL
psychologist, not just your imaginary shrink.

Now go finish your chores before your hubby


comes home.



LOL,,,,always in search of a a bit of power, no matter how slight...


I'm sure you are, and you could probably find that power if you didn't give it
up to him so easily. Play hard-to-get once in a while, even if he -is- your
husband. After all, this is the 21st Century, and marriage doesn't give him some
kind of legal right to sex even if you don't want it.

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While there is no doubt that eavesdropping on
private conversations is illegal (and if you


have ever read my website


LOL...there it is again,,,,that ego,,,,I'm not interested in anything a
confirmed and self-admitted liar sets forth.


Yet you continue to respond to my posts, proving yet again that it is -you- that
is the liar. Even your "I'll respond to any post directed towards me" excuse
doesn't work when you express your lack of interest with such a small part of my
post.

Which is worse -- a person that can admit his


lies, or one that continues to stack lie upon lie


upon lie?




A liar is a liar is a liar, frankie, all your spin in the world won't
change the fact that you are a confirmed liar, lid, and hypocrite, just
like Davie and Nad.


Oh, I forgot, truth is your friend, and


everything you say is the truth.



Everything I post is the truth.


Wrong. You have posted many falsehoods (lies), and on many occasions. You
continue to do so every time you claim that I'm N7VCF (the fifth ham you have
accused me of being).

I don't suppose you have told a lie in your


entire life, have you, Twist?


Try to follow, Frankie,,,I'm not the issue..I'm merely *your* issue.


You didn't answer the question: Have you ever told a lie?

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Iyou would know that I'm not a big fan of


cordless or cell phones for just that reason), it


doesn't interfere with the conversation or


cause any harm or inconvenience.



Nevertheless,,,you're intentionally glossing over Davie-son's wanton,
illegal behavior. He has called several others here a criminal for no
less than freebanding. By your own words, he is "selecting what rules to
disregard" and, man, have you posted a ton of ignorance concerning how
you feel about such behavior. Not only is Hall's behavior hypocritical,
but your selective whining about WHO breaks laws is laughable in the
face of your ire.

I'm "glossing over" nothing.


Denial ain't a river in Egypt.


Freebanding is necessarily illegal.



So is monitoring private phone conversations.


Yes it is. But in your ignorance you don't realize that, under the law, cordless
phone conversations are no more private than CB or ham conversations.

Using a


scanner isn't.



Neither is using a cb. See above : )~


It is if it's being used on unauthorized channels, or with unauthorized power or
modes.

I really don't care if someone spends their time
listening to their neighbor's telephone


conversations,




Illustrating your blatant hypocrisy and lies you told about how laws are
there for the good of all and selective obeying of laws is of the
criminal element....LOL,,,sure, Frankie.


That statement is based on your ignorance of the law.

just as long as they don't have any intention of
cleaning out bank accounts, or using the info


to hurt someone.



Only,,,(and herein lies your malfunction) it's not up to *you* what is
ok and permissable..LOL.


.........

In the same vein, I don't have a problem with


CB DXing, just as long as the power and


splatter is kept to a minimum so as not to


muck up the rest of the band.




Again,,,your ego is in your way,,,it's not about you Frankie, or me, no
matter how much your ego demands it. You have issues, dude, and you
really need someone to teach and instruct you on the finer merits of
internet communication,,,


Someone like you? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

,,your ego is way too involved and dictates and
demand everything relates to you personally, somehow,,,,,,you ain't
right.


You are projecting again, Twist.

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On the contrary, I would like to see the 250km


limit lifted. The only problem with that is as


soon as it's lifted (if it's ever lifted), there is


going to be a subsequent surge in freebanding
and amps.




Conjecture. Pure speculation and *personal* opinion.


MacroEconomics. It's called a complimentary market.

And no, I don't choose which laws I obey or


ignore.




With your lies, you're tough to find a believer.


Right. Sure. What happened to all your cheerleaders, Twist?

See, you choose who to harass on usenet for their choice of topic. You
also hypocritically choose which law you feel you have the right to
enforce (that pathetic ego need for power).


Whatever.

But I DO choose which people I vote for office,



Along with every other registered voter.

and I DO choose to voice my opinion to those


people when I think a law is unfair or useless.




And you DO choose to become personal and insultive to those who voice
their opinion against laws you DO feel are fair and useful,.


Only to those who use ignorance to justify their lawbreaking.

You also have told those who hae voiced their opinion to stop "whining"
about it and change the law. Take your own advice and you won't be a
hypocrite,,,,,at least to the extent you appear now.


Gee, I don't recall whining about the 250km limit. In fact, I don't think I have
even mentioned it more than a half-dozen times in the past three years. Not like
I am you, constantly on the rag about the government being oppressive, the laws
being unfair, and the legal activists forming a conspiracy against you. No,
Twist, I think that you -should- take my advice -- quit yer bitchin, unhitch yer
horse and hit the trail with a do-something attitude and a saddlebag full of
sticktuitiveness. Even if you fail, you will still have accomplished more than
what you accomplish around here -- sitting on your fat ass, complaining about
everything and anything, lying about everyone you don't like and generally
making yourself a nuisance.

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A couple of the issues I'm working on now


happen to be the current mess regarding local
broadcast station ownership, and the ban on


new Class D station licenses.




And you callously and ignorantly assume that no others work on any
issues because they choose not to inform you, therefore, you
hypocritically tell them "Stop whining and do something to change the
law."


Maybe your communication deficit is acting up -- where are my thousands of post
of me whining about those issues? They don't exist. OTOH, where are your
thousands of posts whining about the government, unfair laws, and all your
favorite "lids" in this newsgroup? Google.com

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LPFM might have been an issue if it wasn't so


poorly implemented.





What's the matter with LPFM? It has plenty of great uses...oh, that's
right,,,perhaps if you were educated in the manners of which it applies
in the flatlands, you wouldn't be so apt to toss the baby out with the
bathwater based merely on your looking at the water and trying to guess
it's temperature.


The regs were poorly constructed, there is no procedure for upgrading the
station, the selection process hasn't been exactly objective, and the whole
service is subject to elimination with just a nod from the fat-cats of the
broadcast industry. As far as I'm concerned, it's a lost cause. I would be more
interested in an amateur broadcast service. Not a bad idea as the VHF-lo band
opens up in the coming years. After all, that's where the FM BC band started
originally.

But none of that justifies ignoring the laws in


favor of illegal operation.


So I'm not being hypocritical here.



Sure you are..good thing you had me to point them out.


You tried, but failed yet again. Too bad you will never realize that you can't
win with your Twistedhed tactics.

The problem is that you can't get past your


obsessions long enough to have a civilized


conversation,




Yea,,sure,,you go on trying to convince another of that,,LOL.


I don't have to convince anyone -- they already know. Oh, that's right, your
communication deficit prevents you from reading all the posts in the newsgroup
that tell you what an ass you really are.

I'm not the one with the compelling desire to jump into another's
personal life like you do, Frankie,,,even when you offered..LOL..


So is that why I have been five different hams? Because you have no interest in
my personal life?

perhaps
this is what is chapping your myopic tail at this point.

? or to understand another person's point of


view, or even to let someone listen to your


opinions with a sincere interest. IOW, your


opinions don't carry much weight when you


are the newsgroup punch-clown.




LOL....only you and KC8LDO have the need to make all your posts
personal, insultive, and of MEMMEMEMMEMMEMEMEMMEMEME! Now, go
on,,,resume telling us about my obsession, Frankie.


No need. You did a fine job all by yourself.

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Unless someone is listening for purposes


other than a morbid curiousity, I really don't


have a problem with scanners. I do -not-



condone eavesdropping on private


conversations. But the fact is that it does


happen,

HAhhahah..so does freebanding.

and I -do- warn people about using



cordless phones.


Not here you haven't.


Oh yes I have. I have mentioned the issue a


few times before, and on other newsgroups as
well.



Post it...


Maybe tomorrow.

right after yiou post your angry accusations claiming I made
false claims about you....come on now,,,,you don't want to become the
punch-clown you fear, do you, Frankie? Whoops...too late..hehe!


You have that job locked down, Twist. You have even refined the art to the point
where your name is synonymous with such personality disorders.

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And I have also posted my website addy.



Ego.

I would probably have posted it more often if


the name of this newsgroup was


rec.radio.scanners or alt.telephone.cordless.

*
*But go ahead and do it now and use N3CVJ as an example.

http://www.aimcomm.com/sparky/hi-tech.htm



Pacification is a temporary thing with one that has his ego so heavily
bruised as yourself.


You keep speaking of my ego... I thought you didn't care about my personal life,
Twist. Was that a lie? If not, why are you so concerned with my ego?

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Despite all that,


Despite your hypocrisy? No, Frankie,,,IN ADDITION, to your hypocrisy,,,,

the FCC has recognized the issue of


eavesdropping on cordless phones and has


taken steps in order to impede the efforts of


those that would listen to private


conversations for personal gain or the


commission of a crime.


Umm,,hey Frankie,,,intentionally monitoring private telephone calls IS a
crime, just as you hold freebanding is.
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No it isn't. 18USC2511(2)(g)(v). Even though


they should probably find a less intrusive


hobby, it's perfectly legal for anyone to listen


to unencrypted cordless phone conversations.



HAHHAHAHHA! No it's not Frankie. Don't tell me you need 'ol Twist to
cite the passage where it is illegal to INTENTIONALLY monitor any
telephone conversation that is intended for private use without explicit
permission? LOL,,,poor Frankie..you fall more each day. That ego must
really be smarting about now,,hahhahah!


The only ego that will be bruised is yours when you finally read the law I
cited. In fact, read the entire section. You might learn something (assuming
your communication deficit doesn't interfere).

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Not my idea of a fun evening,



Well, Davie thinks it's "juicy."


but hell,


I'm wasting my time replying



(snicker) You know your ego is getting bashed and can take no more when
you resort to what you know...lying. Once again, you initiated the posts
and threads to myself , Frankie, Your communication defict once again
has you misinterpreting my replies as initiating conversation. You're
way off, Frankie.


More projections.


to your posts. I don't know which is worse....




You or Dave? So far, Dave denies lying. He hates to be wrong and told
no. ANother destroyed ego by a lowly cber.

As the older, unsecure phones find their way


to the trash heaps, the issue is gradually


becoming moot.

*
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*Not moot at all. I merely use you and Hall's oft-repeated mantra that
it's the "BEHAVIOR" that makes such criminal acts so bad,,,,the blatant
disregarding of federal rules for personal satisfaction...try not to
lose site of what you selectively hold others to, Frankie.


Blah, blah, blah. Read the law.

Idiot.




Yea,,I figured you'd be pained by rubbing your nose in your mess.

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Oh, wait a second, youre still tripping over your hairlipped lie looking
for that post you claimed I said the same thing about you in,,,,,,still
waiting, Frankie,,,you mean you lied? Again? Gee... "I have admitted to
lying in this ng and on
more than
one occasion." Frank
Gilliland )
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BTW,,,what happened to that Vancouver
feed?

Never had one.


LOL...hokay!
Your Time Warner (TWTelecom) is in Vancouver, Frankie.

My ISP is in Spokane, Twisty.


Your Time Warner (TWTelecom) is in Vancouver, Frankie, the "feed" you
just lied and denied.

My "feed" comes from my ice-box and pantry.


My ISP is in Spokane. Where it goes from


there I don't know and I don't care, just as long
as it ends up at it's intended destination. If it


goes through Vancouver, so be it.




Ahahahha..you and Davoe are the same pathetic lids. He claimed the same
thing,,claimed he was a network admin in one post, then claimed he
didn't know how or why his email originated from Villanova U....LOL.
Lids in a pod.


One small problem with that theory, Twist: I never claimed to know how packets
are routed. But I -do- know that not everyone who subscribes to AOL lives in the
urban hubs that are indicated by their IP numbers, as would be the case if your
theory held water. I also know that no other webtv subscriber has posted from
the same IP number set/server name that showed up in your headers last year, the
same ones that are in the headers of some of those forgeries you claim you
didn't post. So keep crying about lids, Twist, and I'll keep that page of your
forgeries on my site. Fair enough?

It might also go through Tacoma, Fargo,


DesMoines, or even Tampa, I couldn't care


less, but that doesn't mean I live in or around


any of those urbs.




But it doesnt.It goes throgh Vancouver.
"Nuff said (smirk).


I don't live in or around Vancouver, either. Want proof?

"I have admitted to lying in this ng, and on
more than one occasion"

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Ah never mind,,,,one thing
at a time,,,,,now, about those RF pirates that you claimed affected your
daily work...

Do you want to know the names of the most


obnoxious offenders in this area?

Not at all. I'm not interested in anything about you.

Then why bother even bringing up the


subject? Or did you write it just to read it


yourself?




You brought it up. I asked the questions that are too painful for a
hypocitical liar like yourself
years to entertain.


....huh? Better make that appointment soon, cause your communication deficit is
getting worse.


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I am being polite,

ROTFLMMFAO!!!


to you, that is all. Your ego misinterprets such simple acts as much
more than they are.

Your incessant hounding on the subject




No hounding , frank, Just redirecting


That's what you do best.

your failed obfuscation and lies,
You claimed I wouldnt answer your questions,,I indeed claimed I would
answer any question you like after you answer the original questions
posed to yourself based on your claims you made and thought important
enough to share.


It seems that any answer must meet your expectations, truth or not. Regardless,
I have answered it in the other post. Now you need to get busy and answer my
questions -- like I said, you have a lot of them pending.

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(sigh) Direct a post to myself, I shall respond,

Respond to this: If I want you to know


anything about me, just ask. If I don't tell you


what you want to hear, deal with it on your


own terms,



My, the hypocrisy is radiant today, Frankie,,absolutely beaming. Take
your own advice, instead of attacking another with all kinds of pathetic
wounded cries about how your questions are being ignored..LOL.


or consult your imaginary shrink.



Once again, and right on cue, only you, Nad, adnd the lid Hall mention
such novelties..the lids of the pod,,the lids and
troublemakers,,,LOL,,,,deal with it on your own terms.


Or keep begging for another year and a half if


you really want, I couldn't care less.


When one makes a post on usenet, they are asking the one they directed
the post toward for attention in the form of a reply. That you can not
grasp the simple fashion in which usenet works,

Do you mean

snip


There you go snipping again.

I mean what I said, That you need far-flung analogies


No, just asking for clarifications.

for all your lack
of intellect is your problem, no one elses.


I understand proper newsgroup quoting. You don't.

I suggest you deal with it
on your own terms.


Ok, but I'm just going to be laughing as you start responding to your own
quotes!

l Fix your own communication deficits, then I'll
listen to you whine about mine.


I don't address yours, Frankie, except when your deficit acts up and you
direct posts toward myself and then try and claim otherwise.


You might want to fix them soon, because in


order to keep you from whining about me





See above.

I wonder if webtv has enough bandwidth to


compensate for your communication deficit....




Your compulsions have you worrying about all that you are impotent
over...LOL..no wonder you're a disheveled mess.

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