On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:38:58 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

In , Lancer
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 14:02:58 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

In , lancer wrote:

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 12:59:06 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:53:01 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

In , wrote:

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At 27 MHz, any antenna shorter then 5 feet is a waste of time.
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Not true. There are antennas at five feet that will match or even
surpass a 102" SS whip.

Bull****.


This has been shown before. Get off your fat ass and do an actual
test. You will find that a Stainless Steel 102" whip can be marginally
beat. You can not realize this by reading a book! Get off your ass.

P.S. A 1/4 wave whip of thicker more conductive material can't be beat
by a shorter antenna, but my comment was about the common 102" SS
whip.

Using Mmana to simulate antennas;

According to Tnom, you should get your "fat ass" out there and to the experiment
yourself!


I'd love to do that, might be a good winter project.

Then we would have more numbers to compare with Tnom's. And winter would be an
excellent time to do it because of the ground conditions (you get snow, don't
you?).


Very seldom, we had snow on the ground for a couple of days last year.