On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 12:23:35 -0400,
(Tampa Bay Always Kicks Philthy Azz) wrote:


I have learned you that your orignal calim of roger beeps being illegal
on cb is wrong, and it contributed to your breakdown.

You have yet to provide a specific passage in FCC part 95 which
permits a roger beep.

Whether or not the FCC now considers a roger beep to be for amusement
or entertainment purposes is a matter for speculation until the FCC
rules specifically.

I'm telling you what I saw 20 years ago, when the FCC lumped together
a whole batch of birdies, echo's, "beeps", and other "toys" and
declared that their use was deemed to be "for entertainment purposes"
and as such were not allowed under part 95. Furthermore they also
added that the addition of such devices to existing radios would void
type acceptance.



So you categorically deny that the moral
compass of our society has declined in the
last few decades?



My opinion on your off-topic subjects is not pertinent to your gaffes.

In other words, you plead the 5th. A wise choice. For if you were to
disagree with me, it would prove beyond any doubt that you are truly
oblivious to life outside your little fantasy world. And of course
your ego would never allow you to agree with me, so you say nothing.


Ask your buddy Jim in Rochester

He's not my buddy.

I guess there aren't too many who are.....


if he feels that his neighborhood is as good as
it was 25 years ago.


There are exceptions to all rules, such as the single neighborhood you
selected as your example.

Look around. It's more the rule than the exception.


To listen to the president, domestic crime has
actually decreased in the country.

Crime is only one facet of the whole picture. Lessening of the crime
rate may also be indicative of better law enforcement activities.

Look into how many people no longer consider other people's rights or
who lack simply courtesy, and you'll see a bigger picture.


Entertaining thoughts to yourself that my usenet name may somehow be a
legal name and "real" to yourself to the point of wondering aloud if the
persona was "faked" or not, illustrates just exactly how far over the
edge you were pushed.

You're kidding right? Do you really take every
word so literally?


I merely reply to the words you present. You must come to comprehend
that it is not my fault nor socities fault that the words you choose to
present are never adequate in retrospect in conveying properly just what
you meant.

I'm sure there was nobody else who is reading this thread who didn't
understand what I was implying (And they are more than welcome to
chime in if I'm wrong). That you again, are the lone standout
underscores your inability to comprehend simple language.



Everything you interpret, including my persona, has been shown time
after time to be in the extreme minority.

Shown by whom? There has yet to be a case where anyone has spoken up
and supported you. You claim to speak for the "majority", but we have
only your word as evidence.


The obvious conclusion one would draw from
that statement is that you are deliberately
modifying your behavior on this newsgroup.

You're sinking faster than your twisted psyche can follow.

I'll take that as an admission of guilt. A little longer and you might
be able to confront your problems. As they say, admitting you have a
problem is the first step toward resolution.


So I'll ask again, which are you a sociopath or
a liar?



A roger beep was classified as an

"amusement device" by the FCC over 20

years ago.



No dice, An Extra should know the current lawas and regulations,

Of the amateur radio service. This is CB remember........

the FCC holds the device as a means of
amusement and that such is illegal on cb,,,,,,,,,,only it isn't
true,,its bull**** from an Extra that should know what he is talking
about prior to embarrassing himself with ignorance.

Prove it.


So prove me wrong and provide me
clarification that the FCC has re-thought its
original declaration.




No need to prove you wrong, as EVERYONE except you is aware of the
rules.

Nowhere in the rules does it say that roger beeps are legal. The fact
that they are not included on the vast majority of legitimate radios
further supports that notion.


Specifically, 95.413 subpart a6 specifically addresses devices used
for amusement or entertainment. A roger beep could be classified as
such, since it is not addressed anywhere else.

95.412 subpart b also defines permissible tones, and defines them as
"only when the signal is used to make contact or to continue
communications". They further clarify the intent by mentioning
selective call units.

If there was a passage in the rules which read something like:" A
single tone, signalling the end of transmission is permissible", then
it would be a different story. But there isn't such a passage. So you
have nothing to stand on when you make the claim that roger beeps are
legal.


The burden of proof is always on the claimant, not the inquirer

And you claim that R.B.'s are legal without any evidence to back it
up, so I'm waiting for you to prove it.

it ranks
right there with your admitted socialism

Provide me the quote where I've admitted to being a socialist. You are
so far off the mark on that one, that it's laughable, even for you.

and anti-privacy stances,

If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear........


So I'll ask again, which are you a sociopath or

a liar?


The accomplished liar is yourself

Says you. You who have failed to prove any of your claims. And as you
are ripe to say, the poof is on the claimant. You claim I'm a liar,
but cannot prove it. What does that make you?


You have never proved that those statements
are anything but the truth. The fact that you
accused me of lying about them does not
prove anything.

But Davie,,,,the continual absence of you providing for proof in ANY of
your claims is all the proof one needs.

I don't have to prove anything. You are the one who claims I am lying.
Provide the evidence that I am lying. Because you simply refuse to
believe it is not "proof" of a lie.


The fact that you cannot find any information
about the CBer who got popped for disturbing
the peace, merely reflects on your inability to
access information.




Sure, sure,,,lol,,,,,coupled with the fact that you beg to be taken at
face value with no proof at any time.

Why not? You do it all the time. You have yet to substantiate any
claim that you've made.


Ahh,,but once again,most in radio, especially licensed hammies, have
ever owned a certain antenna, especially a base antenna, they would
remember it mostly all their lives.

That is your assumption. A flawed one though. You base your proof on a
flawed assumption. No wonder you'd never become a scientist.

,,you claimed the FCC maintains the roger beep is a sound effect device
for amusement, but can not cite anything to back up any of your claims.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of
absence.


You keep saying that, but absence of evidence is most certainly the
standard by which an individual is judged in the United States

This is not a criminal trial. Although you should be sitting at the
defendant's bench.

Not at all,,,,that you can't bring forth ALL your unsubstantiated claims
make you a liar in everyone's book. When one makes unfounded claims on a
regular basis and has not once provided for any of them when asked, that
person is viewed as a liar, a propagandist at best.

Then by your own definition, you are a liar, since you have thus far
failed to back up most of the claims that you have made in the past.
Like the military group that you ran from when Frank called your
bluff.


Not at all. Many times have I admitted giving back ten times what is
received.

More signs of sociopathic behavior.


And pales in comparison to your definition of self-interpretation, state
of society, absence of proof, rules of the FCC, and self-annointed
qualifications.

Careful, you might blow a fuse.


I don't mind getting down in the mud

Of course not, that's been your intention from
day one. You need it to feed your enormous
appetite for attention.



You are the one making all the posts personal and about myself as
opposed to an issue,

You started that. A long time ago.



You are the one defending N8's disgusitng felonious crimes while
attacking others for the "crime" of speaking about freebanding.

When have I defended Doug's "criminal" activities?


Freebanding IS a crime.

Talking about it isn't,

Why talk about something you aren't allowed to engage in? That's
nothing more than doubletalk.

A federal crime.



If that were so, all who have received an NAL would have a criminal rap
sheet,,,lol,,but alas,,they don't.

They will once convicted. The rest are simply playing Russian Roulette
with the time clock.


. That you choose to defend one who blatantly gets busted
by the FCC for jamming a repeater and who was convicted of child abuse (
a FELONY)

When?

while railing against one who chooses to speak of a topic you
can not only handle, but are unable to properly define, illustrates your
ignorance, hypocrisy, and skewered radical view that are shared by none
except yourself and N8WWM and KC8LDO.

Why should the crimes of one, excuse the crimes of another?


On the contrary,,I'm not the one that has made countless accusations
based on nothing more than ignorance.

You mean like those countless claims that I'm a liar?


I speak the truth. If the truth insults you, it's not
my problem and further reflective of your own
psychological issues.

If one speaks the truth, one has no problem providing for suc. You have
provided for nothing, except more lipservice.

Much like you. You expect everyone here to take your word at face
value, while demanding irrefutable proof from anyone else? There's a
word for that......... Yea, that's it! Hypocrite


That you felt this important enough to make
yet a second response to indicates the depth
of your obsession.

It wasn't a second response, it was a first response to a thread you
have hacked.

That's funny coming from a WebTV used who hasn't even mastered the
simplest of quoting techniques.


Once again, you cannot possible know what

the "Average CBer's" views are.


Sure I can. The fact that I was a regular contributor for over a year to
a subscription-only monthly Sporadic Waves whose topic was cb,
illustrates just that.

What, that you appeal to other bootlegger criminals? Is that supposed
to legitimize your activities and your anti-social mindset?

Publishers only print what is advantageous to
their bottom line, especially with a for-profit 'zine such as Sporadic.

Guy's who publish porn say the same thing. But is it something
reflective of wholesome societal behavior?

It's time to put you back in your box. I've fed your attention for far
longer than you've deserved. I'm sure you'll want the last word, your
ego demands it, but that's it from me.



Dave
"Sandbagger"
http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj