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Old June 24th 04, 05:24 AM
Keith Hosman KC8TCQ
 
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itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge wrote:

Keith Hosman KC8TCQ wrote in
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http://w3.gwis.com/~ack/Onion.html


shows nothing stating yellow granex "vidalias" are spanish onions


http://plantsdatabase.com/search.php...onion&submit=S
earch


also does nothing to prove your point.


If you'll notice, the specific name for the Vidalia onion is Allium
Cepa, and if you'll notice that just hapens to be the specif name of
the spanish onion as well.


Keith,If you'll notice LOL that Allium Cepa is the species name of onions
which a spanish onion and a yellow granex both belong to. One is not born
from the other.

The Onion Plant
Family: Liliaceae
Species: Allium cepa.

" Allium cepa is the botanical name for the humble bulb onion.

Like all plants and animals different types
have different names. The only difference between the Vidalia, the
Walla Walls, the Maui, and even the Yellow Granex are all the same, so
in a way I was right,


No Keith you are not correct at all not even sorta close, yellow granex
and spanish are 2 distinct onions, one does not come from the other. Read
below from web page

"Varieties
Both fresh and storage onions come in yellow, red and white colors. This
is significant because colored onions have a chemical in their scales,
phenol, that inhibits smudge and neck rot. Sizes can vary from 1/8 inch
pearl onions to 6 pound giants. Bulb shape varies widely. The botanist
Henry Jones created nine bulb shape classifications: globe, flattened
globe, high-globe, spindle, Spanish, flat, thick-flat, Granex and top.

There are hundreds of onion types: yellow, white, red, and even brown
storage onions; specialty sweet onions like Maui, Vidalia, Walla Walla,
Arizona, and Texas Sweets; spanish onions, boiling onions, pearl onions
and creaming onions. Everyone has their favorites. "

the breed of onion ws the same, and he grows
them here, the bulbs he planted were from GA the "Vidalia" but they
are grown here in NW Ohio.


So yes you were correct, Vidalia is the name for those grown in that
region, same as the Walla Walla is named for that area, as is the Maui
named for that area, but they are all the same species as the Spanish
onion. So I was correct as well.


Keith you are 100% wrong, spanish onion is nothing but another variety of
onion, yellow granex which the vidallia is, they are seperate and
different than spanish onion which are storage onions while yellow granex
are more a fresh onion.

"Spanish Onions are a large yellow storage onion, as round as a globe.
They usually have a slightly higher water content, and so generally are
less hot, sweeter, somewhat crisper and more perishable than the storage
onion.


Have a nice day.
73 de Keith


Usually do.



just like Canine is the family, and is broken into the various species
i.e. Doberman, German Shepard, Irish Setter, ect.

The The Onion Plant
Family: Liliaceae BTW it is actually Alliaceae
Species: Allium cepa.

Now go to that site I listed, look at every one of them, it distinctly
differentiates the different species of onions with different names. the
Allium Cepa, is a "breed" of Alliaceae,just like a rottwieler is a breed
of canine.

Family: Alliaceae
Genus: Allium (AL-ee-um) (Info)
Species: cepa (KEP-uh) (Info)
Cultivar: Sweet Vidalia
comments on the vidalia from this website
"On May 2, 2004, Farmerdill wrote: A 1985 hybrid yellow granex type from
K-F seeds, now offered by Sunseeds. A mild onion that runs in jumbo
size. It has very good tolerance to bolting and is adapted to short day
growing areas from Georgia to California."


Family: Alliaceae
Genus: Allium (AL-ee-um) (Info)
Species: cepa (KEP-uh) (Info)
Cultivar: Yellow Granex Improved
Comments from the same website "On May 2, 2004, Farmerdill wrote:
A pungent hybrid yellow Granex from Sunseeds. Runs jumbo in size and is
adapted from Georgia to California"

Family: Alliaceae
Genus: Allium (AL-ee-um) (Info)
Species: cepa (KEP-uh) (Info)
Cultivar: Harmony (spanish)
comments from the same website "On May 2, 2004, Farmerdill wrote:
A hybrid yellow sweet Spanish type onion from Crookham. This cultivar
runs jumbo to colossal in size and will store fro about four months.
Excellent tolerance to pink root. I grew hybrid Spanish
cultivars(although not this particular cultivar) in Virginia by
purchasing field grown plants from Texas and setting them in early
March. They did quite well, maturing in late June early July."

Family: Alliaceae
Genus: Allium (AL-ee-um) (Info)
Species: cepa (KEP-uh) (Info)
Cultivar: Granex 33
comments about this onion on same site "On Apr 29, 2004, Farmerdill
wrote: This is one of several hybrid versions of the short day onion
Yellow Granex.These are grown extensively in Middle Georgia and are
marketed as Vidalia onions.


Family: Alliaceae
Genus: Allium (AL-ee-um) (Info)
Species: cepa (KEP-uh) (Info)
Cultivar: Aranex (Granex 7092)
comments onthis onion from same site: "On Apr 30, 2004, Farmerdill
wrote: A 1999 hybrid Granex short day onion from Seminis. Has resistance
to pink root but is otherwise almost identical to Granex 33. Suitable
for "Vidalia" growers.

Family: Alliaceae
Genus: Allium (AL-ee-um) (Info)
Species: cepa (KEP-uh) (Info)
Cultivar: Henry's Special
commens on same site about this onion: "On Apr 30, 2004, Farmerdill
wrote: A 1966 hybrid granex type from Arco. A short day onion that is
resistant to pink root.


and there are too many more to paste in, everyone here can go look at
the site for themselves.

http://plantsdatabase.com/search.php...nion&offset=20

It's all there in black and white. In case you were not aware, I happen
to live smack dab in the middle of agricultural country, there are
entire farms here dedicated to growing fresh produce for Campbells Soup,
Lachoy, Con-Agra. These farmers are friends, and family of mine, I
started working on the farms when I was barely even a teenager,
including planting, harvesting, and driving the procudeto market. Ever
drink a V-8? all ingredients grown here in NW Ohio.



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