On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:24:21 -0400, (Twistedhed)
wrote in :

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Echo boxes are a totally different issue. They

fall clearly into the classification of

"amusement or entertainment" devices and as
such are specifically prohibited by 95.413.



I disagree, but let's assume you right on this item. I would challenge
the validity of this on several counts,,,the most obvious being the fact
that sound and broadcast engineers use echo (not repeat, but slight
reverb echo) on FM broadcasts for many commercials and ads for a
specific reason,,,,it gets noticed and is often more recognizeable and
often louder. As such, one could make the argument, it is an audio
"enhancer", not entertainment device, and with the myriad of broadcast
sound engineers backing my case, I would feel extremely confident
handling my own situation, if this were it. As you now are most astutely
aware, what you consider enhancement and what I consider enhancement is
now very much subjective. Again, ask Phil Kane what must take place now
(once this case is challenged). The FCC would have to rule (FIRST, and
before any further prosecution) what constitutes "amusement devices" and
specifically address the echo issue, just as they recently ruled what
constitutes broadcast obscenity.
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Ok, I like the way you've presented this. You

make a good argument that a certain amount

of reverb enhances audio quality and adds

"depth". I totally agree with you on this point. If
the current batch of "echo toys" were sold as

devices which ONLY added enough reverb to

accomplish the effect you've described, then I

would agree that the device was an

"enhancement" device in much the same way

as an audio compressor. But that would

eliminate "repeater" type echos.





Interesting. Where would the line be drawn? At one complete repeat? Two?


This might help:

http://www.trueaudio.com/at_echo.htm



The fact remains, you hold the FCC as an entity whose rules should be
blindly followed, but then question the same agency's integrity when
they enforce those rules.


Nobody is suggesting that laws should be blindly followed, but you
have claimed that that laws should be openly violated -because- you
question their integrity. That's not the way it works, Twist. Try
reading the First Amendment.






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