From: (Dave=A0Hall)
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:36:00 -0400, (Twistedhed)
wrote:
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Speaking of pics, my buddy was here form West Palm (evacuee from Jeanne)
and when the damn storm came here (we are still without electric and I'm
on a generator so I probably won't be around again until the electric
gets turned on) he took some super pics of the palm trees on my property
during the eye-wall. When he gets back home and sends them to me, I'll
post them.
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Hmmm......

I wonder how one does that with WebTV........


Simple. One makes a webpage with the photos. You forget my skipfish page
with them yankee boys?


I was not aware of that page
=A0

If you need detailed instructions on how basic webtv operates and
functions, email me.


I'm just curious how you can upload pictures

from a machine which can not handle file

transfers (At least according to the literature

I've read).


Can't upload anything, not sure about what you mean by "file transfers".


If you don't know, then it's a sure bet you can't

do it.
=A0


Is that why you mentioned it (file transfers)? To find something pc
related of which I was not capable? For crying out loud, you are really
feeling depressed there, Davie.



=A0The MSN home page claims that you can

create web pages, and mention adding

photos, but gives no further info on how one

actually accomplishes it. My digital camera

uses a USB port to transfer images. The

WebTV console does not advertise a USB

capability.


Perhaps not, but they most certainly have a manner in which to load
pics, but I have an old "classic" set up, the oldest webtv there
is,,,the very first one. The only way I can post a pic is to receive it
from someone else in email and then repost it or publish it on a page,
or else cut and paste a pic, but of course, lifting a pic for any reason
that the user did not take is against federal law governing intellectual
property rights unless explicit written permission was given.


Ok, that answers my question. You can't

upload your own pictures. You can only cut

and paste existing pictures which are sent to

you. That's all I wanted to know.





Yes and no. Personally I don't have the hardware to do that. Webtv can
most certainly upload pictures in the same manner you do, they just need
more external components.


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In any event, let's clear up something for Mopar and myself. Mopar
should be reminded that the discontent coming from "George" can be only
one of two people....wa3moj, which Landshark has proven beyond
reasonable doubt to the masses, or yourself. Now, before you get crazy,
allow yourself this simple explanation.... you and "Geo" are the ONLY
ones to ever post regarding intimate knowledge of Lancaster (Amish
Country).......example: speaking of the previous ownership of Zinn's on
Route 30.


If Landshark has already "proven to the

masses" that "george" is really wa3moj, then

why accuse me?



By virtue the process of elimination. "Geo" denies he is Geo (forget his
call sign for the moment)....that leaves ONLY you, exhibited by the fact
you two are the only ones with any intimate knowledge of the area in
question around Lancaster.



Let's analyze this statement for a second shall
we? You conclude that the person posting as

"George" has to be either WA3MOJ or me,


I didn't conclude it, I surmised it.

Semantics.


It's not. If I concluded it, I would have said so and said it was
definite. I didn't. I said IF it wasn't Geo , it was you. Your quickness
to jump and latch onto this tells me you probably have a hand in his
dirty barrel of filth. Your threat leaves me no doubt your involvement
and harasment level of participation. Your defending of N8WWM when he
was busted jamming and your saying the FCC could be wrong and that Keith
may have framed Dogie leaves little doubt to the rest of the world your
agenda and position.



based solely on the basis of our geographical

proximity to Lancaster Pa.?


Not at all,,I based it on you are the only two to have EVER posted here
regarding information of Lancaster.



And that precludes anyone else from living

here and knowing something about the area?



Not at all, but there is no unknown factor here. The IP number is
constant regardless what he chooses to refer himself and thiat IP number
matches countless harassing posts, in addition to speaking on depth on
several occasion of the area. ONLY you and "Geo" have ever exhibited
knowledge of the area. The probabilty factor is always a hurdle for you,
Davie, exhibited with certainty when you offered the pathetic near-zero
probability that N8WWM was framed by someone prior to the FCC announcing
he was busted for jamming the Toledo Amateur Radio Club members on
multiple occasions.




Hell, even you have made comments about

this general area. Maybe YOU are the one

posting as "George"?




As I said, you are really unnerved at this point, Davie. Lucidity is
escaping you in increased increments.




That would be the same sort of reckless

accusation as if I were to "surmise" that since

you live in Florida, you must be the same guy

who used to go by the handle of "King Kong"

some years back, that earned some sort of

notoriety on the band.



Only I would spend no time at all arguing with what you wish to believe.



Here's another possibility for you to consider.

The person you speak of is neither wa3moj or

anyone else who you know, but rather another
anonymous twit who's been having a huge

laugh at everyone's expense as they accuse

other people of being responsible for the

deeds.




And the only way you know this for absolutely sure and without any doubt
whatsoever, is you are either that person, or heavily involved with the
harassment. I surmise both.


I didn't conclude it, I surmised it. ;-)



Actually, you didn't surmise it, you made a concise conclusion with a
personal conviction of confirmation. Read again what you wrote.


And you are correct. The only way that I

WOULD know for sure is to have some direct

involvement. But I'm not saying that this IS the
case, only that it is a distinct possibility.




A very distinct possibility, In fact, given the threat you made, your
unyielding attempts at uncovering personal information on cbers who post
on usenet, coupled with the probability factors that keep coming in to
play, leave little doubt your involvement. In fact, such a direct threat
is a picture perfect of your involved harassment actions.





One thing that I DO know for sure is that I've

never posted here in the last 9 years under

any other alias but my own given name. I have
no need to hide behind fictitious names.



Yea, well we showed that wasn't true either, as you were posting under
the same account as that VE was at Villanova, When this was illustrated
and brought to the group's attention, your reply was something along the
lines.."Yea, well I borrowed an account at that time." You ahve made
several claims that are off the wall, Davie..the threats, Keith framing
Dogie, Dogie is really innocent,,,,,,,you are delusional, and so is the
"Geo" poster.


But the big question, that I want to know, is

why bring this up in the middle of a discussion

about the capabilities of WebTV?



Because you reminded me of your trouble making ways and double talk by
posting and asking me things before you answer the questions posed to
you.


Lame excuse. But one that does not cover

your inability to remain on-topic.


Exactly,,,like our last exchange concerning your involuntary feelings of
need to meet "Twistedhed".
Since you don't see things the way the majority of the world does, it is
of little concern.


That's a hoot, as I am far more in line with

what most moral, and respectful people see

than you are evidently aware of.
=A0


Moral folks don't make idle threats based on their inability to discuss
things rationally....you do. Respectful people don't pull a name from
their azz (Keith) and say the FCC Rain report may be wrong because Keith
"MAY" have tried to frame Dogie and the ''possibility does exist"...you
did. Again, you are reaching for something so remote, that NONE , hammie
or cber have subscribed to your theory, so feel free to repeat you are
"in line" with the majority over and over. It simply fuels your
delusion.

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=A0My other piece of enjoyed entertainment at the moment is you appear
to have lost your zest for the quest of meeting up with myself. After
expressing your dire want to meet many times on this group and
mentioning your trip to Disney, I offered you several avenues in which
to achieve your quest, the last of which you failed to respond.
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One minor correction, I am not of a "dire want"
to meet you.

Double-talk again.

No, that's the straight up truth. You are

nothing more than a curiosity to me.



Curiosities doesn't lead to threats like you make. It's much more than
that for you, davie, adn if it's not, you ought to have yourself
examined for allowing a "curiosity" to overcome your better sense and
lead to such behavior that it leads to you making threats.
=A0You went out of your way and became so enthralled in your frustration
over this, you posted a direct threat that you would "spread my personal
info around".


When did I do that? Certainly not recently.


Sure you did, Davie, within the last couple of weeks.


If I did make the comment that I would

"spread around your identity", it was only to

end the madness that had infected this

newsgroup.





Justifying your threats is expected, but stop blaming your behavior on
others.


Most anonymous agitators suddenly loose

their drive when everyone finds out who they

really are.




Rephrase: Justifying your threats is expected, as is your need to blame
your behavior on myself.



I've found that out time and time again on the

CB band over the years. That's why most of

the people in my channel groups have all

become proficient at direction finding. It's

helped to quell the idiot factor.

I suspect that this is why you are being so

evasive when I inquired as to this meeting.




Misinterpreting the several manners I gave you in which to accomplish
YOUR "curiosity" factor were met with excuses by yourself.







You have no intention of revealing yourself, as
your anonymity is far more important to you

than coming to some face to face reconciling.





Only I'm not anonymous to several on here. You were just told that in
another thread, but you may continue professing whatever it is that
makes you feel better about yourself.



I will just be in the general area next month,

and gave you the opportunity to prove once

and for all that you are someone beyond your

little cartoon character facade.


How privileged I am to be graced with the chance to "prove" something to
you. If you mattered in the context of anything, I might be interested
in what you do or do not believe, but alas, you do not, and I am
perfectly content watching you self-frustrate over my cartoon character
that drives your misguided quest.


I'll take that as an admission that you have no

desire to set the record straight.



I'll take your declination of accepting a day's trip as you have no
actual desire to meet up for any pertinent reason but to make good on
your threat. The booking of your trip with a cc protects ME, as well as
you, which is the main reason you will not provide it.



You offered me the choice of either finding

you on the CB, which of course, I don't know

what you go by or what channels you talk on,




I would meet you on any channel/frequency you like and answer to
whatever it is your curious azz wishes to call me. No more excuses about
channels or handles, please.



which then gives you a convenient excuse to

say that you weren't around when I came

looking. Or giving you MY cell phone number

(Which I don't have), where again there is no

guarantee that you'd call and you now would

theoretically have a piece of my personal

information.


Only YOU are the one making threats with personal information, not I.

Lose the lame excuse. It's no longer relevant.


To the masses, threats are very relevant. No Davie, you will not gloss
over your threats and try and say they do not matter. Live with your
erratic and harassing behavior instead of discounting it when it is
illustrated. Your whining to forget your threat at least illustrates you
know it was wrong, but you never cottoned too kindly to your making of
mistakes and being wrong. It infuriates you.


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What a case of classic self-projection,,,,merely because you would stoop
and lower yourself to harassing another via the "spreading of their
private information" doesn't mean others would do it. In fact, the
majority of regs here are not like you at all. Only a few scumbags are
interested in harassment as you threatened.
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Really? Then what do you call the latest round
of "intimidation" with Doug,



Dogie says this never occurred. Next.


and Steveo, and

Leland, and the on-again, off again "meetings,


Dogie initiated these meetings with threats of violence long ago.


answering machine messages,



I know nothing of any answering machine messages.


photo taking,



Taking photos from a public right-of-way is not harassment. Mopar is
gettting all the free legal advice he can handle regarding such
media-like endeavors, and there ain't a law he is guilty of breaking
regarding his photo taking. Deal with it.





and harassment of significant others then?



Your protection of felons who harass this group on a regular basis, who
have been busted by the feds, who have been found to be mentally
unstable by a court of law you always invoke (all laws are to be obeyed,
etc.) who have made countess posts containing homosexual preferences,
connotations, and verbiage as insults, is much more offensive to the
majority
than the posting of public information of said felonious harassers that
you ignorantly misinterpret as harassment.


I'd say that there are quite a few people on

this board who are preoccupied with using

others personal information against them.




You're the main culprit. You are so preoccupied with it you had to
threaten me with it.
And blaming others in order to justify your own agenda is no better than
blaming me for MAKING you threaten me. Much unsettling non-conducive and
unproductive behavior from you, Davie.


That would involve a level of trust that I quite f

rankly do not have as of yet.

Seems like you have yourself another quandry.

Do I?


Apparently. You are unable to get another to conform to what you want
(that starved-for-status thing rearing its ugly head again in your
low-self esteem) . The inner power/impotence struggle you exhibit isn't
anyone elses quandry.

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I will
assume you were having fun and blowing smoke not expecting to actually
be given several real-life opportunities to fulfill your curiosity and
respond in kind. Behave yourself.


Now, if you would just direct me to a place

where I could find you, at a specific time, then

I could make the meeting.



Sure,,your hotel. In this manner, you have no personal information of
mine (my work, my place of business), and I none of yours


You'd drive all the way to Kissimee?



Maybe. Kissimmee is worse than Orlando for kitsch. But then again, there
are a ton of lakes and rivers around there..make for some good
freshwater fishing.



Besides, you already know way more about

me, than I do about you.




That was your choice. Stop blaming me for your poor choices.


You already know my name, my call sign, and
by extension, my home address. I also have a

web site which includes some photos of

myself, as well as my history in radio. Mind

you, I have nothing to hide. On the other hand,
you (or someone acting in proxy for you) could
show up and, well, it wouldn't really solve

anything. Your lack of trust in this matter is

showing.





Because I won't do what you demand, makes for lack of trust on my
behalf. excellent! Good luck in convincing anyone to share such a
radical and deviated belief. Permit me to spin you around 180 degress so
you can see the other side of the coin...you not conforming to what I
ask is lack of trust on your behalf? Or does that only apply to your
unique situation?



You have a charter boat business. I would

think that would be an excellent opportunity.


Deal. Send me your credit card information for a full day excursion.


Hah Hah!! Like I'd do that. What do you take

me for, a fool?



Same can be said to you regarding meeting at my place of business after
you threatened me with the "spreading of your personal information". If
I was a suit-seeker, I'd permit you to hang yourself with this. Your
threat, when made good after meeting at my place of business would most
definitely render you a pauper for the rest of your life, but such is
illustrated only for your education. It may prevent a costly mistake
when you fool with someone that takes you serious.



Besides, for you to charge me,

you'd have to use a legitimate business name,
which would show up on my credit card bill.

You sure you want to do that?




Send it.
I will give you ten percent professional
discount and I accept Triple A, in addittion to AARP discounts. In the
fall (now), I have a strict cancelation fee because of the crowds. A
reservation fee of $100.00 is imposed on your card, but applied toward
the remainder of the balance when your trip is complete.
DO NOT book this trip unless you want your card charged.


I don't want to take a trip, I just want to say

hello, shake hands and maybe talk a bit about

the sandpile.........

Dave

"Sandbagger"

http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj




In other words, you want something for nothing. You want my personal
information, and are asking me to hand it to you after you made a threat
regarding this information. A rocket science you ain't. A harasser on
rec.radio.cb, you most certainly are.