"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 17:41:08 -0600, "DR. Death"
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"Gulf Coast Tony" wrote in message
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I agree it's high time to bust the non type accepted radio dealers. CB
is most fun when using real CB stuff. Any idiot can run high power to
clobber a channel. Whats wrong with using 4 watts and a nice antenna?
I'm not a ham. I am a CB'er. There's nothing wrong with enjoying this
hobby. Lets just do it the right way. Here's a few places that deal in
10 meter radios and amps for 11 meters. I don't know what we the law
abiding CB community can do about it. The sooner the FCC does their
job the better for all of us. Then maybe the fools that scream "AUDIO"
and cuss and foul up the channels will be gone !

73'3
Tony
http://www.copper.com/
http://wholesalecbradio.com/
http://www.gijoesradioelectronics.com/
http://www.geocities.com/macscbshop/CB_Equipment.html
http://www.bellscb.com/
http://www.rrcom.com/welcome.html

P.S......we should also do business with those honest dealers that
DON't sell modified radios and amps. Here's a couple.

http://www.universal-radio.com/
http://www.alfenterprises.com/

That won't stop the people from cussing and keying down to jamb channels,
fools are fools regardless of the equipment, that's the same as saying
there
would be no murders if we outlaw guns.


Yes, assholes will be assholes regardless of the equipment that's
available. The problems started just after the Citizen's Band was
created, and they aren't going away anytime soon. But that's no excuse
to add to the problems with more amps.


I never stated we should add more amps.

Sometimes 4 watts is not enough. When
I go mudding in my truck, sometimes I'm in places with no cell service
and
kicking on the amp saves me from walking 10 miles if I break down or get
stuck.


Get a 3-watt cellphone. I have a Uniden SMS-316TSD in my truck and it
works great. Coverage is almost 100% (that is unless you are going
deep into the Bitterroots, in which case it pays to get a satellite
phone).

There are many places in my neck of the woods where a 3 watt cell phone
still won't work.

And 4 watts on Ch. 9 will reach 10 miles without a problem if
you have a decent antenna because there is very little noise on the
channel. So I don't see your reasons as justification for an amp.


Channel 10 is our local channel in this area. A lot of the locals with
clipped limiters and amps can bleed enough that from 10 miles 4 watts won't
always get me help, particularly when I'm in a river bottom surrounded by
bluffs.

I also like to shoot skip on sideband and the best place for that is
the freebands.


The best place for that is the ham bands.

If your a ham which I am not. If the FCC would have allocated part of the
C.B. band to SSB only, maybe the freband would be less attractive.

You can run illegally and still be responsible about it.


That's an old and tired excuse. You can't violate the law and be
responsible at the same time -- it's an oxymoron. Think about it:

"You can spit on the sidewalk and still be responsible about it."
"You can speed in the freeway and still be responsible about it."

When my 3 year old grandson drank a bottle of furniture polish, I felt fully
justified exceeding the speed limit to get him to the hospital. I didn't cut
anyone off or force them off the road to do so. I consider that a
responsible breaking of the law.

"You can burglarize a house and still be responsible about it."
"You can murder someone with a gun and still be responsible about it."
(and before you condemn me for that last analogy, remember that it's
the same analogy -you- used earlier in -your- post).

NO, I stated that eliminating guns would not stop murder. People were
killing each other long before firearms were invented. I simply used that
anology to point out that eliminating amps would not stop foolish behavior
on the C.B.

It just doesn't wash.


I do
everything I can to make sure I am not coming over phone lines and
bleeding
on several channels. I don't use junk export radios, I use low pass
filters
and I check my equipment with a scope. I don't run power unless I really
need to. BTW, Copper no longer sells amps.


It's not just about RFI. It's also about the hogging of a channel by a
single dork with an amp. If you increase your power enough to double
your range, you are cutting off the channel over an area that could
accomodate at least six other people. Double your range again and you
cut off 36 -more- potential users. The numbers rise exponentially, and
so does the frustration of legal "mud-ducks" trying to talk to someone
just down the road.

If I am stranded I'm sure that the C.B. community would understand that I
had to break into the regular chit chit long enough to get assistance. I
rarely use an amp for AM regular 40. I do sometimes use it on freebands to
shoot some skip on SSB. If they were legal mud-ducks, what are they doing on
the freebands?


Using an amp is not just illegal; it's rude, inconsiderate, and it's
not how the CB band was intended to be used. If you can't resist the
temptation to play hammie then get a license and work the ham bands.

I don't consider it rude to use an amp to get help.
If more hams were to educate C.B.ers on the benifits of becoming a ham
instead of treating us like we are the spawn of Satan, maybe I would get my
ham ticket. Most of the hams that I have met have been quite rude and I
don't wish to waste my time and money on a hobby I don't think I would
enjoy.
You do not sound as if you enjoy C.B., maybe you should get your ham ticket
so that you can associate with your own kind.