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Old January 18th 05, 07:09 PM
Len Over 21
 
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In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

Lenof21 wrote:
In article ,


(the paragon of Truth and Virtue, he say) writes:


In article , Mike Coslo
writes:


Lenof21 wrote:

In article , Mike Coslo
writes:

Really? "Hams used to do the 911 communications?"

Misquote, Len. Jim wrote "reporting". In that he is correct. Since so
many (most?) people have a cell phone, it stands to reason that the
initial report is more likely to be made by a person using a cell phone.

That's it, Mike. Of course there was a time, not so many years ago, when

cell
phones weren't very common, but hams with mobile rigs were.



...must have been in a galaxy far, far away from this one. :-)

Lovely NON-applicable factoid, doesn't explain anything. Of
course there were radio amateurs with mobile radios "not so
many years ago." There still are.

But, there are NO facts presented that those mobile radios
were used in emergencies. If they were, there are NO facts
presented as to any percentage of "emergency operations"
relative to normal amateur radio hobby use.



Here's a "plain simple fact:" I replied to J.P.Miccolis' message
and quoted his EXACT WORDS.

Looks like a misquote on Len's part.



Tsk. J.P. "never said that." ? :-)

Of course he never said that. He WROTE it. :-)



Do you mean when Jim posted:

Jim What *has* happened is that cell phones do much if not most of the
Jim 911-type
Jim reporting that we hams used to do.

and you wrote:

Lenover21Really? "Hams used to do the 911 communications?"

Ain't no "misquote."

Sure is. But I don't think Len will admit it, Mike.



Tsk, tsk. The "911" communications system was never designed
around radio amateurs.

[this is beginning to sound like another wish-fulfillment statement
done in here by another, "Sorry, Hans, MARS IS amateur
radio!" :-) ]


Jim wrote:

Jim What *has* happened is that cell phones do much if not most of the
Jim 911-type
Jim reporting that we hams used to do.

and you wrote:

Lenover21Really? "Hams used to do the 911 communications?"

Where exactly did Jim say that Hams used to do the 911 communications?

Not in any post I can recall.



Tsk, tsk, tsk. Verbatim copying of actual, posted statements
just a few days ago "can't be recalled?"

Bad case of short-term memory loss. See a real MD.


Now you go read my reply and, if you have arguments, you can
go off and argue with the U.S. Census Bureau, NASA, the FCC,
and, for emotional finger-pointing, the families of the astronauts
killed in the shuttle burn-up. Whoever.

Looks like Len is telling you not to differ with *him*, Mike. Looks like

he's
trying to tell you to stop pointing out his misquote.



Tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk. Ol' George (Orwell) should have been around
to see this parody of "1984." :-)

J.P. denies having said something (or wrote) and Coslo keeps
trying to stick his hockey puck in here, and both are having a
fun time pretending to be honorable and virtuous paragons of
truth, justice, and the ARRL way.


I'll admit, I am having fun.

Seems like there SHALL BE NO ARGUMENTS WITH PCTA
EXTRAS!!! Ever. :-)


Oh dear, I know at least Jim and myself love a good row! I like
accurate quotes tho'!


Tsk. You two "row" your boat all on dry land.

Fix your leaks and you can try it in the water.


If you don't like my messages, I suggest you do the same.

Sounds like good advice. Of course the author of that one won't take his

own
advice...



Tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk. J.P. didn't take such advice. :-)

Coslo keeps jumping in on others postings, acting like an immoderate
moderator in an unmoderated forum.


Don't you just *hate it* when that happens?

It's a Fantasyland. The "911" emergency call system was NOT
established with or for amateur use, yet the two paragons keep
trying to say it was and that hams DID "911" comms (even though
it did not exist then).


Good point. No one said that though.


It was all written, not said. :-)

Let's see...the 911 emergency call system was implemented
on the telephone infrastructure. It wasn't implemented through
amateur radio. Really.

Yes, some amateur repeater operators have added the ability to
access the TELEPHONE SYSTEM 911 calling. At least I am
told this. :-)

So, by the miraculous wish-fulfillment properties of the self-
righteous, you now want to infer/imply/never-say-outright (or
whatever you do or claim) that amateur radio is responsible for
the creation and continuance of the 911 emergency calling
system?


Twilight Zone. Lost in Space. Outer Limits.

Jeff Herman said that hams can do communications with zero power
output.


"CW gets through when nothing else will."

Gosh, that sounds like "CW" doesn't even need electricity! :-)

Breakthrough in physics! :-)

J.P. implied that ham HTs were the only practical means of comms
among shuttle burn-up debris searching. [all the rest of those
thousands and thousands of government and agency HTs were
apparently inadequate in the Fantasyland]


Where on earth did he say that? Another of these "quotes"?


According to the rec.radio.amateur.policy newsgroup postings.

Tsk. Is AOL giving you trouble also?

Hams used VHF HF, and an internet link during the debris search. I
don't know if they used UHF or not


You were THERE? Along the debris footprint? Did you find anything?

Or didn't you just repeat the tale told to you? Which is it?

NASA doesn't say that hams were the ONLY ones looking for debris.

Well, I should cut you some slack. With all that "serving your
country in OTHER ways," it must make you tired and grouchy.
Get some rest. You will feel better.


This is getting to be like Laugh-In but without the humor...


It is there, you just have to look for it!


Yes, it is there. But the "humor" isn't funny.

Problem is, "Laugh-In" is a defunct TV show.

Lots of the myths of morse have been defunct longer...but they still
live on like ghouls or zombies. You have ghoul friends?

Continue to "serve your country in those OTHER ways," good soldier.



Posted on 18 Jan 05