From: (Frank=A0Gilliland)
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 09:23:02 -0500, (Twistedhed)
wrote in :
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Dave
"Sandbagger"
http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj
Dave is still here? I thought he ran away to

rec.boats after I trampled on his

propoganda-induced delusions about Kerry's

service record. Guess he was still lurking.



Speaking of,,,check this out from truthout.org.......


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Ohio Recount Steeped in Fraud
=A0=A0=A0=A0Democracy Week | Commentary
=A0=A0=A0=A0Saturday 01 January 2005
There is something you can do.
=A0=A0=A0=A0The presidential vote recount in Ohio is over - or is it?
The Green and Libertarian Party candidates who paid for the recount may
have a claim of fraud against election officials and at least one voting
machine company. If they can't get a new recount, they ought to at least
get their money back.
=A0=A0=A0=A0Here's what happened.
=A0=A0=A0=A0Any Ohio county did not have to do a full hand recount if a
random sample of three percent of the ballots in their county matched
the original count.
=A0=A0=A0=A0The first fraud count: Not all the counties, if any, pulled
the test precincts at random, nor did they allow the trained observers
to see how the test precincts were selected.
=A0=A0=A0=A0Rep. John Conyers, ranking minority member of the House
Judiciary Committee, sent a letter to all the presidential candidates,
in which he he stated: "At least one precinct in Medina County that
would not have voting anomalies was both carefully pre-selected and
pre-counted, so that the initial 3% recount that is mandated by the Ohio
Secretary of State would not return a mismatch between the initial tally
and the recount." [Read Rep. Conyers' Letter]
=A0=A0=A0=A0Once they selected the test precincts, some counties shared
that information with the voting machine technicians, who then made
adjustments on the machines and gave advice on how to create an exact
match. That would be the second fraud count. Technicians from Triad, the
company operating many of the counting machines, visited 41 of the 88
county election offices.
=A0=A0=A0=A0Triad technicians admitted that they helped the counties
avoid the full recount by faking the match on the three percent count.
[Read a transcript of the admissions].
=A0=A0=A0=A0When all else failed, election officials changed ballots to
make the count come out right. An election official stated that she "did
not want the hand count and the machine count to be different because
they did not want to do a complete hand count," according to a trained
observer quoted in Rep. Conyers=E2=80=99 letter. That would be fraud
count number three.
=A0=A0=A0=A0Mr. Conyers also wrote to Triad, asking them to provide
information regarding the company's ability to control the machines
remotely, which a Triad representative admitted. [Read Rep. Conyers'
Letter to Triad]
=A0=A0=A0=A0Fraud count number four would be that the Secretary of
State, who also served as Mr. Bush=E2=80=99s state campaign chairman,
refused to issue guidelines to the counties for the handling of
undervotes, overvotes and other issues, a clear violation of the
=E2=80=9Cequal protection=E2=80=9D ruling of Bush v. Gore. Counties used
wildly different rules during the count and the recount, depriving the
recount parties of true value for their investment.
=A0=A0=A0=A0The same Secretary Blackwell may have been a party to the
systematic violation of equal voting rights by shorting minority
precincts of voting machines, while over seventy extra machines
languished in a truck. The day-long lines in many minority neighborhoods
cost Mr. Kerry thousands of votes, by some estimates.
=A0=A0=A0=A0This article scratches the surface of what was done in Ohio
to suppress and subvert the vote and render the recount meaningless. For
in depth reporting, your best source is The Columbus Free Press.
=A0=A0=A0=A0What Can You Do?
=A0=A0=A0=A0Rep. Conyers has said that he will stand to object to the
acceptance of the Electoral College vote when it arrives at a joint
session of Congress at 1pm on January 6. Other House members will join
him. One Senator is needed to stand with them.
=A0=A0=A0=A0Senators don't want to look like lunatics. They need support
from home. The most effective thing Americans can do THIS MONDAY AND
TUESDAY is to print out the Conyers' letters from the links in this
article, write a quick letter to the editor as a cover letter, and hand
carry them to local newspaper editorial writers.
=A0=A0=A0=A0If a Senator with a concern for democracy can be found, then
the Ohio mess will become a major story as committees investigate and
the mainstream press piles on. The chance of it overturning the
presidential election is miniscule, but it will set the stage for
election reforms and for the punishment of criminals in high places, and
it will dissolve the notion of a present mandate.
=A0=A0=A0=A0A useful cover letter would state that, regardless of party,
Americans must insist on the fair and non-partisan administration of
elections, and that our Senators should stand with Rep. Conyers to
demand an investigation and a pledge of reform before this
year=E2=80=99s election is accepted by Congress. We are too great a
country to accept damaged goods instead of a reliably honest election
result, or else our claims of spreading democracy to other lands is a
sham. Your letter could remind the editors of how many people have
sacrificed and died for our freedoms, the emblem of which is, more than
our flag, our ballot.
=A0=A0=A0=A0After you hand deliver the letter to your newspaper, take a
copy to the field offices of your two Senators, if you live within
distance.
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Also, what is going on with Nethercutt, now?