And, one other idea !! (found on the bay of "e"), and available elsewhere-
a mount for 2 of these (or the hustler, and an Iron Horse, ect) "1/4" wave
antenna -- first antenna goes to center of coax, second goes to shield!!
makes a dipole, about 15 foot long, and can be mounted to mast (conductive,
or plastic, same diff! tho the impedence will be quite low (because of
these loaded
whips), and the effeciency will be also not the best, at least would be an
effective counterpoise!! and, to boot, parts available to build adaptor at
rip-off shack!! got whole thing off epay for about 50 bux, + shipping!!
Jim NN7K


"Crazy George" wrote in message
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You know, one wonders what happens if you swap the Hustler and the
counterpoise? Coax center to a quarter wave piece of wire, shield to a
(ugh! I had one once) Hustler not too near the ground. Nothing different
probably, but you never know.

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"'Doc" wrote in message ...


Neil,
By now, you have probably figured out that the 'Hustler'
antenna as a portable isn't exactly the best idea without
a very good ground system. But, it will work with a
counterpoise. Not well, but it will work. Something in
the near 'neighborhood' of a 1/4 wave for the counterpoise's
length should make the transmitter 'see' a load it can work
into (depending on how that counterpoise is 'laid out').
There are other options for a portable antenna that may
work better than an extremely shortened mobile antenna...
'Doc