Jeff Renkin wrote in message

So, if you are out in your row boat, carry a channel 16 marine walkie talkie with
you.

Who said anything about a row boat... just another typical lame ass
retort from you....

So that answer would be, the Global Maritime Distress and Safety System.

Right...A guy on a 20 ft sailboat is going to buy a system that costs
more than his boat...

He doesn't need one, the VHF channel 16 radio will be good enough for as far as he
should ever be going out.


I was expecting you to say something like that.

And we don't feel sorry for stupid people who take
stupid risks, so them dying is how nature weeds out the weak and stupid.

Well, don't then. We won't feel sorry about you whining about the code
test's every day.


Satellites and GPS are far more reliable than HF.

GPS??? Who talks on a GPS? And no, not all satellites are more
reliable than hf.
Not all satellites are in geosync orbits. But, I can see someone using
sat's on a boat at times. But I sure wouldn't want to rely on one in
an emergency. The only sat's I can use are amateur sats. I'd be better
off on HF.

Keep in mind code was
invented and used because there were no microphones invented yet.

You sound like a broken freaking record...Polly want a code test?
Polly want a code test? Swqaaaaawwwwwkkkkkkkk!



How many people do you know with small private boats, that have the
normally COMMERCIALLY USED GMDSS system onboard? This is not a trick
question...You can take your time, if this hurts your brain.

None of my friends with small private boats go out farther than the range of the
channel 16 marine radios will cover.

I rest my case. Who cares about a radio that will be lucky to do 80
miles at best.."the only reason I give it that much credit is because
of the water you would be floating over" None of your friends with
small private boats go out farther than the range of a VHF radio,
probably because they are a bunch of chicken**** code weasels. I know
people that LIVE on sailboats. And they aren't afraid to use them. And
they have BOTH VHF marine AND amateur radio. GPS too.


But yes, everyone I know does have a GPS
system on board.

So what? Many people I know have a GPS in the car. So what? What good
is a GPS, except for telling you where you are? You are ducking behind
tepid horsecrap now....

My friends don't fool around and like to have the best of
everything.

I bet...What does this have to do with the GMDSS system you have
touted for the past few days as the best thing since sliced bread? Are
you telling me they have this gear, or are you just spouting more
B.S.? A simple GPS doesn't qualify.

If you can afford a boat, you can afford the fancy radios that go in
it.

Right...If you can afford to whine about the code for days on end, you
can afford to spend two weeks learning it, if you want a ticket. But I
guess you really don't want one that bad. If you are not lazy, then
you are admitting to me that you surely must have total **** for
brains. I bet you have to tie a red blinking light to your car antenna
just to find it in a deserted K-mart parking lot. I've worked 7 year
old girls on the air that have more on the ball than you do. And that
ain't no crap either. I actually have worked 5-6-7 year olds on the
air that passed that code test. And they were working CW on the air,
not using a mike. And not a whiner in the pack. If I were you, I'd be
ashamed.




And we don't have this stuff on our bicycles either, because it is not needed.
But if you are going to be in THE MIDDLE OF THE OCEAN, then yes, they ALL have this
stuff.

Again, you are full of crap. Trying to back peddle your way out of
your mess now huh? And who said anything about the MIDDLE of the
ocean. But no, if you are in the middle of the ocean with a private
vessel that carries less than 12 people, and you are not taking an
international trip, you don't have to have that stuff.


The only time the aircraft will be spitting out that info is if they

They ALL do it. The only flights that turned it off, were the ones on 9/11 that
were taken off line to purposely avoid detection. This is a requirement, not a
choice.

Nearly all larger aircraft have transponders going, but that doesn't
mean those internet airnav programs are updated instantly. There is
quite a lag involved, in which time, the data you see is estimated.

Why do so many people want to throw all this technology away and force
everyone to stay with antiquated forms of communication like HF and Morse
Code?

What next? Will they start a movement to force all of us to get rid of our
washing machines and have to use old washboards instead so THEY will be happy?

If we decided to change all commercial vessels back to 500kc morse, you
might have a point.

But like I said, we haven't , so you don't....

Or decided to make all ham operators in the year 2003 learn Morse Code before they
are allowed to use a microphone.

They decided this many, many years ago. Hell, you code whiners are
lucky they dropped the test down to snail speed, even for extra class.
But you all still whine like a bunch of lazy ass 7 year old children
even after that.



I for one, gladly embrace new technology that makes life easier and
better.

Yea, I bet you will install all that stuff on a 20 ft sailboat.

No, just as you don't see any HF radios with code keys installed on them either.

I rest my case again. Whupped your ass on that one, huh?

You don't have a gas gauge on your bicycle either like on your car do you?

I don't ride a bicycle.

Be realistic. Row boats and canoes don't need this stuff.

Who said anything about row boats and canoes? What other horsecrap are
you going to come up with? I ride canoes and kayaks down rivers. Some
ride them on the ocean, but I'm not going to try to tell them how to
run their boats. I know one thing, they would be lucky to fit all that
GMDSS gear in the canoe, and still have room to sit.

I use all the latest technology too, but that doesn't mean I'm dumping
all my older ones just to look stylish.

Oh, then you DO have a washboard around and a horse in the garage.

No, but I still use CW. Never have had a washboard or a horse. I have
watched bonanza though.


The newer ones just add to the
ones I already have at my disposal.

Interesting. I don't use coal to heat my home.

That makes a lot of sense... I'm starting to think you ARE a 7 year
old girl...
I guess the use of coal to make electricity would strike you as silly
too, huh?
Too damn old fashioned to possibly be of any use at all....I guess we
should just cut your power off...Being you are so damn high tech,
surely you can whip up a mini nuclear power plant real fast.


There is no one forcing anyone to do anything.



Oh yes there is. People who want to use microphones on HF are being FORCED to
learn morse code, even though they will never be using it or remembering it after
taking the test.

OK, the FCC forces you to take a code test...Who cares? I'm glad. You
need to take a code test. Will make a man out of you.

Trying to compare
requirements for a commercial marine system to amateur radio is
ridiculous.

I wasn't the one comparing HF morse code use on a commercial marine system. LOL!

Right, you are about a stupid dip**** aren't you....You been doing
that for the last 5 days. BTW, you paragraph doesn't really make
sense. You should have said:
I wasn't the one comparing HF morse code TO a commercial marine
system.
And if you say that you haven't been, you are plain full of it. I am
on google you know. I see ALL posts. Want me to refresh your memory?

You are the one that needs to get realistic.

ROLFFL!

..-. --- .-.. ..-. ..-. .-.. ! so there...na-na-na-na-naaa-naaa


People who bowl or play golf don't force everyone else to do that either.
Hams that use microphones don't tell morse code lovers they have to use
microphones, so why can't the stubborn headed morse code loving hams just
enjoy their hobbies without forcing everyone else in the world to do what THEY
want to do.

Again, no one is trying to do anything, you twit. If that were the
case, I and all of us stubborn headed morse code lovers would be on
the horn to the FCC every day badgering them to keep useless ******s
like you off the air. What makes you think *we* have anything to do
with this? The last time I was at an FCC office was when I took my
general. "13 wpm, which I passed 100% by the way. Eat yer heart out!

The only reason I comment about this is because you make me sick to my
stomach with all your petty ass code whining and I like to slap you
around. More fun than watching "the no-spin zone" I think someone
surely must have porked you in the ass when you were a child. Either
that, or you got your pecker caught in a box fan and was changed
overnight to a whining little girl. So damn sad...:/ MK