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Old June 3rd 04, 08:57 PM
Walter Maxwell
 
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On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 14:03:26 -0500, Cecil Moore
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Walter Maxwell wrote:

Cecil Moore wrote:
"How" is not explained in any of the physics references.


Cecil, I explained the 'how', both in Reflections and in QEX.


Yes, I know you did, Walt. By "physics references" above, I meant
books like college physics textbooks, e.g. _Optics_, by Hecht.

What is really perplexing to me is that several posters on this subject said
that Steve's 3-parter is the best and most illuminating article they ever read
on the subject. How can they have missed some of the most egregious errors
appearing in that paper is unbelievable!


Not recognizing his power equations as classical EM physics interference
terms was a pretty huge mistake in Part 3. But alleged gurus on this
newsgroup have done the same thing. Apparently, power is simply ignored
in present-day transmission line theory.

Cecil, if s11(a1) is equal in magnitude but in opposite phase with s12(a2) this
constitutes a short circuit.


I agree it constitutes a "short circuit" for superposed rearward-
traveling voltages. But exactly the same thing happens to the current
as happens to the voltage. And an "open circuit" is what causes the
rearward-traveling currents to superpose to zero.

The two rearward-traveling superposing voltages might be:
(100v at zero degrees) superposed with (100v at 180 degrees)
The superposed sum of the two rearward-traveling voltages is zero.
This indeed acts like a short where voltages go to zero.


Cecil, this is exactly what I've been trying to persuade you of, but always said
no, there is no short developed. But you must also agree that under this
condition the current doubles.

The two corresponding rearward-traveling superposing currents might be:
(2a at 180 degrees) superposed with (2a at zero degrees)
The superposed sum of the two rearward-traveling currents is zero.
This acts like an open where currents go to zero.


Of course, but the voltage doubles.

Or if you prefer, both the E-fields and the H-fields cancel to
zero when complete destructive interference occurs. In a transmission
line, it causes a surge of constructive interference energy in the
opposite direction, something you have called "re-reflection from a
virtual short".


Well, Cecil, here's where we part company to a degree. Unlike voltage and
current that can go to zero simultaneously only in the rearward direction, E and
H fields can never go to zero simultaneously. At a short circuit the E field
collaples to zero, but its energy temporarily merges with the H field, making
the H field double it normal value. But the changing H field immediately
reestablishes the E field, both now traveling in the forward direction. And yes,
this is called re-reflection.

If Steve understands the action of the fields in the EM wave it's hard to
understand why he finds it so erroneous to associate voltage and current with
the their respective fields in impedance matching. Apparently he can't conceive
that the voltages and currents in reflected waves can be considered to have been
delivered by separate generators connected with opposing polarities.

Walt