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Old February 24th 04, 06:37 AM
Melvin Creep
 
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(oan) wrote in message . com...
I don't think nobody ever hears about. I was already expecting someone
to ask thiis question as soon as I send this message. Thank you very
much fo not disapointing me my friend
What is the official government number? Thanks.

Well, there is no official number. Because that first world war led
the ottoman empire to collapse. Hundreds of thousands of people died
from hunger. There were no officials to log some statistical datas.
Every individual was struggling to survive. I heard many stories from
my grand parents and old people telling that they were dancing when
they found a death body of a horse, because it would be only thing to
eat. But I know that the total population of ottoman empire during the
fist world war was about 13 millions. Since %10 of them are told to be
Armenian, there should be about 1.3 millions of Armenians. If turks
killed them all, then the official number should be 1.3 millions.
I don't know the exact number of deaths during the war. Either
Armenian or Turkish or Greek or Russian. You say that you hear many
things about armenian holocaust. That's true, some of the history book
I read was telling the truth of armenian holocaust, and some of the
books calling the same events as turkish holocaust. I don't know which
one is the mere truth. But, if you ask my own opinion, I will say that
unfortunately horrible things happened in those times and both sides
killed many innocent people from the opposite side. For instance, My
grandfather's village is in eastern anatolia. He, with other 4
children were the only survivers of a holocaust armenian gangs (or
army, what ever you call it) did to their village's 3000 people. My
father's uncles, who were small kids, were killed too.
And, a very close friend of mine, his mother is armenian, tells me
that half of the population of his grandmother's village, including
innocent civilians died
in those battles.
I believe that history should teach us not hatred but love. we
shouldn't use history to remember the bad things and feed the revenge
feelings. I for instance, have no bad feelings for armenians just
because killers of my father's uncles and grandparents were speaking
armenian language. As I have said, my closest friend is half armenian,
I have many good friends from armenians. But, also, I know many
armenians I don't like at all, as I know many turks who I am reluctent
to exchange greetings, some of whome are not a human but animals.
Likewise: Washington and Lincoln were christians, so was adolf hitler
and mussolini. As everybody knows, There is nothing to do with one's
language or religion to like or dislike him.
Melvin
P.S. Are you Muslim? If so, as spokesman for the shortwave listening
family, I must tell you that you are not welcome in this group.

I love jesus and some of his teachings, as I do Buddha's, Zerdhust's
and Ar-rumi's. My family is muslim. I can not describe myself as
muslim, since I do not follow many of the practices of Islam, I do not
share some of the ideas of Islam. I share the similar unorthodox,
mysthic and ecsoteric ideas of Islam, Christianity and Jewism. But, if
you really represent this group and you are the spokesman of the
group, I will leave the group with pleasure. Because I don't like to
bother you and other members. Please execuse me if I accidentally
entered to a race/religion oriented group.
And I apologise from all the members of this group because of this
long off topic conversation I caused.
Regards, Oan

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Oan:
Yes I am the official spokesman for this newsgroup and do indeed
have the authority to decide whether or not you will be allowed to
continue to post here. After an agonizing evening pondering the
question I've made the decision to allow you to continue your postings
on a probationary basis. I must caution you that, for national
security reasons, your messages will be monitored very closely.
Considering your background, I am sure you understand why this must
be. After a period of 30 days I will personally review all your
postings and make the decision as to whether your probationary status
should be lifted. Thank you for your cooperation and enjoy the group.
Sincerely,
Melvin Creep
Shortwave Newsgroup Spokesman
Washington D.C.
USA