David I feel sure that the new design is what I have described and we will
know in a few weeks.
But do yourself a favour and roughly model the following
which is not a final design.
Create a closed loop and divide it into 20 segments
and then cut it in half to make the program shorter.
You then place these haf loops at varying heights with a matter of inches
between them. When they are connected
together starting from the ground the resulting patter will be a cloud
warmer with high gain. This does not take long to do and if you scan
frequencies you qill find the pattern change interesting. If you then become
interest then connect the half loops instead of 1,2,3 vertically move the
fthird loop to position one and so forth plus connect them so that you have
both clockwise and counter clockwise
radiation, you will then see a flattening of radiation to the horizon.
Enough said, I am not interested in a verbal snotty battle which will surely
happen now that Richard has entered the thread. If the new patent does not
follow the scheme of things outlined then I will supply to you
a model and a picture of an actual antenna. So let us await the release of
details of this new' revolutionary' antenna which I am sure that Chip will
supply.
Cheers
Art



"Dave Platt" wrote in message
...
In article XXfSc.241290$IQ4.147543@attbi_s02,
wrote:

David

Idid describe an antenna that will do all the things that the new patent
claims and it would not surprise me i9n the least if it turns out to be
of the same
design.

Art,

You've _talked_ about an antenna design which you claim does these
things. You have never, as far as I have seen, "described" it clearly
enough for anyone to actually draw a picture of it that you were
willing to agree was accurate, despite having been asked for this
detail a number of times.

Until you actually demonstrate it (so that it can be subjected to
unbiased tests), or succeed in describing it clearly and accurately
enough that someone else can reproduce it and test the reproduction.

Until you do one or the other, I'm afraid that I have no confidence
that your design does what you say it does, or works the way you say
that it works.

Sorry, guy. On this, I'm "from Missouri"... I say "show me!"

Now David I know hams do not like to pursue the idea of maxcimum
radiation
per unit length but
if you have a computor program that can use variable dimensions to meet
specs then I have provided
enough info for those that are interested

I disagree, Art. Every discussion or description I've seen you write
has been fuzzy, contradictory, unclear, etc.

but I suspect that most are
inately lazy and prefer to0 await the unveiling
at the end of this month.

I don't buy it, Art. I've tried pretty hard to make sense of what
you've written, and have gotten nowhere at all.

By the way in the description of the multi loop I
made no reference to use of
clockwise and counter clockwise travel a statistic that is very important
as
is the center pole.

So, you've "provided enough info for those that are interested" but
have made no reference to two factors that are "very important"?

Am I sold on the idea of a different aproach to antennas, you bet I am as
this aproach provides a
flattening of the take off angle on the horizon at the expense of higher
angle radiation which for cell type frequency
is wasted energy

Fine. Show us.

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