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There is NO reliable evidence the documents are


fake.


Dude, what part of "computer age"
do you NOT understand?



I USED TYPEWRITERS THAT COULD DO IT BACK IN THE


EARLY

SEVENTIES DICKHEAD!

1. It's been established in the last 24 hours that

typewriters

of the time could do what we've seen.
2. Isle of the Dead is a known newsgroup psychotic.

Don't

waste your time.



It's only been established that some typewriters had


the

type-font. What has not been established is if *any*

typewriters

of the time could be used to reproduce what someone

(according

to

NPR) has done: - Type the content of the suspect


document

using

MS Word. - Print the MS-Word doc on a laser printer.
- Scan the MS-Word doc
- Scan a copy of the suspect document
- Superimpose the two over each other and marvel at how

they

line

up.

Maybe it's not outside the realm of infinite


possibilities

that

a

chiefly mechanical device in the early seventies has


the

same

typographical characteristics of a current software


based

word-processing program to include type spacing,


kerning,

justification, character registration, etc, etc, etc...

I wouldn't be so quick to declare it a definite or even
reasonable probability just yet...

Well, the raised "e" can only be accomplished in Word


with

great

difficulty.

It's beginning to look like the docs are legitimate.


NPR or

no

NPR.


Apparently the raised "e" can also be attributed to a


defect

introduced by multiple-passes through a copier in an


attempt

to

artificially "age" a document. If you've seen the pdf (I

downloaded

it from the Washington Post).

No. That wouldn't effect the "e"s alone.

Try again.


In the single position and no other "e" being affected, I


would

think

it is an artifact from something other than the device that

originally

produced the document.

Now you're reaching.


No need to try again.

Wrong.


The new discoveries along with the Rovian character of the

first

criticism out make it clear that the docs are legitimate.


Opinions vary...

Rove doesn't. He's a sleazeball trickster and this is just


his

style.


Besides that, the docs don't reveal anything that wasn't

already

known about Bush's desertion.



And there we have it. Who needs the docs, right? Enough


said - I

think

I see where you're coming from.

Yeah. I'm coming from the truth. The existing documents


without

Killian's documents already prove Bush wasn't where he was

supposed to

be. Then there are the missing documents and the picture put

together

by the AP. Bush was a technical deserter, Killian docs or no

Killian

docs. That was never really a question. The Killian docs are
interesting, but they don't change much of anything.




And Kerry received one or more of his decorations "technically".


So

what?

Apparently, you come from "the truth" as only you can see it


through

the

filter of your bias. Wherever Bush was, the ANG apparently did


not

have

any problem with it, as can be determined by the honorable


discharge

Bush

received. Or is that particular document "forged" and/or not up


to

your

standards of truth?


I think it is a mistake to spend much time on Kerry's 4 months in
Vietnam since it's his word against others.

More like 3 plus years.

Excuse me, 4 months and 2 days.

Wrong.



I can understand your problem. Your boy, Bush deserted during his service
in the guard, so you've got to find a way to attack the actual service of
Kerry, who did two tours in Vietnam.


You mean the Kerry who gunned his swift boat and ran when another swift
boat hit a mine, while the other swift boats stayed to lend assistance
to the stricken boat? You mean the Kerry who admits to shooting a
helpless woman and baby, and shooting a wounded teenage soldier in the
back? You mean that Kerry?