In article , Mike Coslo writes:
K4YZ wrote:
Lenof21 wrote:
In article , Mike Coslo
writes:
I'm TRYING to argue against the morse code test. You are
trying to squelch such arguments by misdirection into defamation of
any who are against the morse code test.
That's simply not true. K0HB, K2ASP, and K2UNK are all against the Morse Code
test. Yet neither KB3EIA nor I "defame" any of them. (There are many more
examples)
Unless simple disagreement constitutes defamation.
Hmm, you possibly could:
Start a Morse code thread
I have.
Actually, in most cases, you take threas on other topics and try
to insert a Morse Code redirect.
Like every thread in the group.
I wonder what the difference is between the rest of us having a
conversation, where the topic drifts a bit, as they are wont to do, and
just about every post that Len makes, which attempts to veer the topic
to Morse testing?
No problem there. The interesting thing is that Len also wanders all over the
map of topics as well.
People don't want to discuss Morse Code testing anymore because
most people (those who read something OTHER than their own work...)
know that the issue is moot at this point. Nothing else stated in this
forum will change Federal policy.
Right.
Some if not all of us are simply waiting for the next step. There are almost 20
proposals before FCC. We may see even more - I could write one myself! (So
could anyone else, of course).
FCC will probably put them all together into an NPRM, ask for comments, etc.
That cycle will probably take at least a year, cosidering how long 98-143 took
(it appeared in mid-1998, reply comments closed in early 1999, and the rules
changes were announced late in 1999, becoming effective in April 2000). At that
rate, if FCC announced a restructuring NPRM tomorrow, we might see a decision
about June of 2006 and changes (if any) effective later that year.
Just an educated guess on my part.
Try to refrain from the pejoratives
Sorry. Someone insults me, I give 'em back lots more.
Len uses pejoratives regardless of whether anyone has used them on him.
It would be interesting to go back in Google and find out who called who what,
and when....
Yet another monumental lie.
Neither Jim Miccolis nor Mike Coslo do anything of the kind, yet
you pour it over Jim like molasses, and you've started in on Mike.
I noticed that! 8^)
You did it to me, you'v done it to EVERYone who's ever dared to
suggest that YOUR opinion doesn't match theirs.
You do it on a whim, then cry foul when it gets fed back to YOU.
So far, in this Din of Inequity, the few, the proud (of
themselves),
the murines (eyewash) wan't to pummel and pound on any
NCTA...especially using personal pejoratives.
Sorry Lennie...it's the level at which you function, and I'd hate
to leave you out of the conversations.
You never know what might happen.
Sorry, sweetums...(SNIP)
Point made.
I have yet to see Mike refr to you by anything other than your
expressed preferred names.
Remember, I did call him Lennie once. But he didn't like that, so I
went to calling him Len. My bad!
Thanks for proving my point right here in THIS post (as if I would
have had to wait long anyway.....)
(UNSNIP)...I've seen what has already happened. So have
you and everyone else accessing this newsgrope.
And they just got a prime example of why everyone else in this
newsgoup is justified in their opinion of you and why you are a
disreputable liar.
Thanks.
Mike, here's how it works:
Len believes in group guilt. Works like this:
Steve calls Len a putz. Repeatedly.
Steve is a PCTA Extra who posts to rrap.
Other PCTA Extras who post to rrap have not stopped Steve from calling Len a
putz. Some have asked Steve to stop calling Len a putz, but Steve has refused,
and still calls Len a putz. Repeatedly.
Therefore, (in Len's mind), all PCTA Extras who post to rrap are guilty of
calling Len a putz. And Len thinks himself justified in calling all PCTA Extras
who post to rrap any name he wants. Including "Nazi".
It does not matter to Len whether the other PCTA Extras who post to rrap have
actually ever called Len a putz. Nor does it matter to Len if they agree or
disagree with Steve calling Len a putz. To Len, all PCTA Extras who post to
rrap are guilty of calling Len a putz.
See how it works?
Some (not me) might argue that if someone is going to pronounced guilty of
calling Len a putz, then they might as well call Len a putz in reality.
But I don't buy that argument at all. I've never called Len a putz, despite all
the names he's called me. I don't recall you ever calling Len a putz either,
Mike.
Personally, I disagree with calling Len or anybody else on rrap a putz. Or a
Nazi, jackbooted thug, elitist, or other pejorative names or diminutives.
Then again, I suspect you enjoy things just the way they are. 8^)
You are WRONG.
I think you're dead-on right, Mike.
IF Mike had been wrong, you would have continued to address
him with out the insulting diminutives and "endearments".
The PCTA just can't take opposing views
on the morse code test.
Sure we can. Ask K0HB, K2UNK, K2ASP, to name just a few.
They get so very bitchy and angry
and demand to get all who argue against the retention that it
becomes a repeated comedy of brainwashing phrases by them.
Now let's see...who acts the most "bitchy and angry" in here?
Actually the comedy comes from watching a pathological liar
continue to make excuses for his lies and misdeeds, only to get caught
up in even MORE lies and misdeeds.
No problem on my replying in kind to the PCTA...if I have the
time to spend on their trite, tired, tintabulation of olde-tyme
phrases.
Then why the continued use of diminutives against people who do
not do it to you?
Why do you insist that you ONLY do it to people who do it to you,
when there's almost a decades worth of evidence to the contrary with
Jim Miccolis alone, and now you have started in on Mike Coslo.
I'm busy with lots of other things...(SNIP)
No you're not. There's not one iota of any evidence in any other
forum of a single contructive effort with your name attached to it.
You're an egotistical, mean old man with nothing left to do in his
life except make other people as miserable as you are.
(UNSNIP)...but I can find time
once in a while to puncture their arrogant balloons of old, stale,
hot air.
You can TRY, but so far all you've done is prove what WE have been
saying all along.
Leonard H. Anderson is a liar.
Leonard H. Anderson is untrustworthy.
Leonard H. Anderson is deceitful.
And it's Leonard H. Anderson who provides the proof of the
accusations.
Thanks.
You've single handedly done more to undermine your "advocacy" than
any other VALID arguments could ahve done.
Who wants to be associated with an issue that is so voiciferously
and embarassingly represented by the likes of you...??? Just do the
world a favor and stay away from such issues as finding an AIDS
vaccine, cures for cancer, or preventing birth defects.
Putz.
Uh-oh. Now we're all guilty (in Len's mind). Again.
You have a point there, Steve. It is hard to convince a person that
your argument is correct when you dish out abuse with your argument. one
is always tempted to disregard all the good parts of the argument with
the bad.
And that's true on both sides!
While it is always a good idea to not confuse the messenger with the
message, which I always try to avoid, such a "debating" style is one of
the best ways to hinder the message. It just means that you have to wade
through the insults and other brickbats to find the message.
The problem is that even if you ignore the insults and brickbats, you don't
really get any meaningful responses from Len. For example, Len previously
stated (in the context of US amateur radio license numbers) that:
"All licensees are perfectly legal to continue operating in their grace
period."
Now, it was repeatedly pointed out to him that this is simply not true.
Licensees who submitted a valid renewal application before the license expired
can continue to operate, but those who did not cannot legally operate until
they submit a renewal application *and* FCC approves it.
But will Len admit his mistake? Nope. Instead, he heaps abuse and insults on
the messengers for daring to point it out.
One wonders how, or if, Len will respond to K2ASP's posts about amateur radio
supplying emergency communications for hospitals in the Pacific Northwest...
73 de Jim, N2EY
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